, we are begging you here…
You don’t have to agree with the other side of debates, you don’t have to respect it, or even be open to learning more about it. But so many of your posts these days seem exhibit this absurd unwillingness to acknowledge that anyone even holds views that are contrary to yours.
That’s what Tigerman was saying. He wasn’t making an affirmative argument that the war was a good thing (even though you know from past experience that he believes that) – he was just saying that there are people who do believe the war a good idea, and that Bush is probably one of those people.
Note: This isn’t Hobbes as a moderator talking here. I’m not saying you’re breaking any rules here. But as a reader of these threads it is so frustrating to see a smart guy ignoring the actual tough questions by pretending that there is no debate.
[color=blue]When you ask things like “Why do the Republicans hate America so much?” it just makes me wonder what is the point of these kinds of questions? You know that there are two solutions: (a) Republicans agree with you that GOP policies are bad for America, and they do them anyway because they hate America; or (b) Republicans disagree with you that GOP policies are bad for America.
You know that the answer is (a), so why not make comments on the substance of some of those disagreements rather than pretending the answer is (b)… a starting point that will lead to no interesting discussion whatsoever?[/color]
:s Oh well… I’m not terribly optimistic that this good faith effort is going to have any effect, so I’ll try and draw this to a close.
Just one more example though, regarding your reference to the poll saying Americans think the war made them less safe, and asking why it is necessary to make America less safe.
Here is a CBS poll indicating that a majority of Americans don’t believe that human beings evolved at all (a majority believe that God created humans exactly as we are now).
Now imagine I ask you [color=black]“Why do these evolution apologists people want to teach our children lies in school?”[/color] … well, what would be the point of that question?
It is obvious that nobody wants to teach our children lies in school. And despite the fact that a majority of Americans disagree with it, the fact remains that evolution proponents actually believe their theory.
And despite the fact that a majority of Americans feel the war has made us less safe, there remain many millions who feel that the war has made us more safe – and ignoring this so that you can ask smart-a** remarks is really a shame.
You know, MFGR, that I probably wouldn’t even bother writing this if you weren’t such a sharp poster? If you were just some idiot who couldn’t understand the distinction between genuine ill-intent and a difference-of-opinion, then I would just let it go. It’s just that you’ve got so much potential to contribute good arguments. (I also happen to think that you have one of the best senses of humor I’ve read on the entire site – when it isn’t a political joke that is )
– Just such a waste of “poster resources” to see you spend your time on bolgerian nonsense.
Okay. End of rant.