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I don’t know WHY I do it…I try to stay away from the pet classifieds. It makes me sick to my stomach how cruel people can be. A woman giving away her 11 yr old cats because she can’t take them home? Another giving away her 2 yr old beagel because she is never home.
If youre not home enough…drop the dog off at a daycare…or get it a companion.
Why are people so sick.
Gotto go self-soothe… :loco:
You are making a rather obvious assumption about the wealth of the owner, er, guardian…whatever…
What would people do if they had kids? They would find a way…not just give it away. If you’re going to be working too much, don’t get an animal…if you can’t be sure whether you can support an animal…don’t get one. It’s that easy.
I know what you mean, a lot of people are irresponsible and it hurts and angers us to think about the animals who have to suffer as a result.
However, it’s not always as simple as “a jerk who is bored with his pet and now wants to get rid of them”. Sometimes people try hard and in the end really have no options left, sometimes circumstances are against them, some people are really forced to give them away and it really hurts them to be judged black and white by those who are not in their shoes.
yes, I do know there are special cases of course…I’m just so tired of it. Hearing even some of my friends say they will just pass their cats off to someone else because they are only staying for a couple of years…why bother getting it in the first place?
I don’t know WHY I do it…[/quote]
As to why you do it… simple, you like feeling righteous. This gives you a perfect opportunity to go get your fix and express it publically as well.
It’s ok. You’re young. You’ll soften as you get closer to my age 
A lot of people like being righteous. I myself like being right. Hence this post. Not a virtue I’m proud of, I must say 
not at all. I don’t go there to get angry and post here…I found my own dog through an ad, so always want to see who else is available…
I don’t think it has anything to do with being righteous, i also go to the adoption pages to see what is there and what has been going on. Now the adoption pages are also to do with rescues and successes. But i also am astounded and angered at the amount of people who have pets and then when they become inconvient to them just try to give them away.
As Battery 9 pointed out, would they be this flippent if it was a child?
“Oh i want to travel the world now and regret having this kid, could anyone take it off my hands, 2 years old, well behaved, just needs attention.”
All animals can be transported back to their owners countries, you may just have to pay a little more or take an indirect route. The proplem is many people put a price on thier animals and think that the animal isn’t worth the money for an air ticket .
Also the whole, " My landlord won’t let me have pets"
Solution MOVE your contract does not say anything about not being allowed to have pets and if your landlord decides later down the line that he/she wants to bring this in, then they are breaking the contract and you can get out of your contract and get your 2 month deposit back.
I’m not home enough. There are pet hotels, you could get a friend for the animal, you could have a friend come and play with the animal if they could. there are many options, but unfortunately many people just like to take the easy road and throw thier problem away.
Animals have feelings, they have rights, THese animals have given thier owner thier undenying love and attention. Why do they deserve to be thrown away because the owner has a better option in life.
We make choices in our lives and we need to consider the consequences of those choices on other living things.
If you want to call this righteous then go ahead. I can live with myself knowing i have done everything right for my animals and will continue to do so.
Hypocrite! You and your mum dumped me as soon as that big Canadian guy turned up! You even gave him my chocolate! :fume: 
Apart from that, your post was excellent. 
I think it’s a little self-righteous to condemn evveryone who gives away an animal without knowing the details. What if I rescue a stray off the street and give it away two days later? Two weeks later? Two months later? Two years later? What’s the cut-off date? Would it have been better to never have fostered the animal at all? We have limited resources, but think how much better the stray situation would be if everyone committed to taking care of an animal for two years. Posts like yours make potential temporary rescuers think twice about fostering an animal for ANY period of time. Get off your high horse.
hummmm… i could get upset at that post but i won’t. i don’t have a high horse and if did i wouldn’t give it away, i would love it and ride it all the time. :raspberry:
fostering is completely different, and i am talking about the many people who buy or take in animals with the intention of keeping them, but then decided to give them away due leaving the country, not convient or many other none acceptable reasons to me.
People who take in strays and are trying to find them homes have my utmost respect and support. Those are the people who are continuously trying to find these animals homes and it may take longer than expected.
I truely understand that we have limited resorces and i am in charge of the resorces of the many animals in our care at AT.
i just wish more people would think about the life span of an animal when they decide to buy or adopt. It is for life, not just for as long as it is convient.
Stray dog, Unfortunately in life you have to let some of the animals go. My mother and I truely believed that you would be better off roaming rather than locked up in my apartment. Also Mother read up that stray dogs can’t be fed chocolate, and thought it was better to give it to the canadian as he has to live with me. Plus it think she is trying to sweeten him up… :loco:
What’s the difference between fostering and adopting? The animals can’t tell the difference.
If ones wife left with the kids, would we be satisfied knowing that at least we had them for a couple of years? Dogs and cats have separation issues, but, certainly, they can get over them soon enough, as can people. But it’s not always about the individual animals.
You raise a good point in your previous post, and I agree that someone taking in an animal temporarily is better than nothing, but the point ukbikerchic is making is that we should not have all these excuses lined up when we give away an animal that we intended to keep.
I take my responsibility towards my companion animals very seriously, and, if everyone did the same, the effect would be outstanding. Unfortunately, it’s this throwaway culture that sees all those animals ending up on the street or in the shelter; we need to curb that, and that’s why we promote caring for your companion animal for life.
I know you put your cats up for adoption, Maoman, and I also know that you will only put them somewhere where you are certain they will be well cared for, but not everyone is like that. Even then, that home is one that could be taking in cats facing certain death at the pound - that’s the reality: there is a limited market, and returning unwanted animals to that flooded market of course will contribute to the surplus, and the tragedy that follows.
If we think before we take on a companion animal, we don’t inflate that market. If we know we can care for the animal for life and remain dedicated to that responsibility, we would no longer see animals relinquished to shelters and death row in times of financial difficulty or changes in living circumstances. That’s a tragedy, if you ask me. It’s not about the individuals; it’s about the unwanted population as a whole.
I don’t care how broke I become (can’t get much worse!), I will always find a way to provide for my four-legged (and three-legged, two-legged, etc.) friends. I wouldn’t give up my dogs or cat any sooner than I’d give up my child, because that’s the responsibility that I took on willingly. I’m not on a moral high horse or a mission of self-righteousness; I’m just treating my fellow beings the way I would like to be treated myself, and that’s it.
Taking an animal off the street is almost always a good thing. If it’s only temporary, that’s also pretty good. But we can always do better, right?
I agree.
Also, while I do become very emotionally attached to a pet and try to love and care for it just as I would a child, comparing a pet to a child is a pretty extreme view for most people. I would venture to guess that most of the people who hold this view don’t have children themeselves. I certainly don’t! (…have children, that is.)
People who have taken in pets and later need to find new homes for those pets for various reasons aren’t necessarily the cruel, heartless people some of you are making them out to be. The people you see posting adoption ads here on Forumosa are actively seeking good homes for their beloved animals and if they didn’t care for their animals at all, I imagine they would just put them out on the street or take them to a shelter like some people do.
I inwardly judged one of my aunts back home because she gave up one of her dogs a few years ago when she moved cross country. She had rescued this dog from an animal shelter and loved and cared for him for several years. When I heard that she decided not to take the dog with her on the move I thought, “How on earth can she just give him up like that?” It really made me angry.
But then I recalled how her 20 year-old son had died suddenly just a year before she gave up that dog. That brought the realization that if she unfairly lost something as precious as her own son, who am I to judge her for giving up her dog? Neither one was easy for her, but I’m sure that letting go of her dog was a lot easier than letting go of her son. I doubt that many people would think otherwise.
The cats that were given away WERE facing certain death on the streets, or at least a shortened and not very comfortable life. I gave them a home for almost ten years, not because I bought them, but because I felt sorry for them. I looked after them for as long as I could, I paid their vet bills, I made sure that they ate well, and had warm, soft places to sleep, I had them fixed. Now when circumstances make it less convenient for me to look after them, I’m a bad guy (according to the OP) for advertising a new home was wanted for them? I had ads running for the better part of a year. I didn’t once consider putting them back on the street, and I made it clear to the adopting family that I would take the cats back if they ever couldn’t take care of the cats. And yet, I’m cruel according to the OP? :loco: If Taiwan had more “cruel guys” like me, Animals Taiwan would be out of work.
You know, when it comes to arguing about finding homes for pets in Taiwan, I wish those who argued so passionately were the same when it came to human rights.
Children and Pets aren’t the same thing. If I wanted to give up a child because I knowing admit that I couldn’t provide for them, I would probably be more commended than chastised.
I don’t get where the ranting on people’s choices. Why? Because, ultimately we need human beings to assist with the animals in staying off the streets. So, if anyone is criticizing others for making a personal choices, then there is an introduction of fear to even getting involved in the first place.
I call all of it bullying on a lower level.
[quote=“Battery9”] Another giving away her 2 yr old beagel because she is never home.
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you ever think that the person isn’t home enough, because they are out working their arse off to provide a home for their pets. And then has to deal with the ‘guilt’ of not being home. The concern of ‘is my pet being loved, paid enough attention, etc’ …
Battery 9 think about it for a moment. A lot of people who come here, still have certain responsibilities in their home countries. Meaning- bills that must be paid. The teaching market alone in Taipei is dwindling and people are having to work longer hours. On top of that, a person does need to get out and socialize, and that takes a wee bit of money in Taipei…
Would you be so vocal if someone admited that they were looking for a better home for their pet because they are AWARE of the fact that their pet wasn’t getting the attention and love and support that it should be getting?
Responsible ‘pet ownership’ begins before you get a companion animal. When you are as deeply involved in the animal-welfare issue, you soon understand that the owner of the beagle made the all-too-common mistake of taking on a cute puppy without considering her ability to care for him or her.
That beagle got sold by a vendor, who, happy knowing there is a market for them, will go and breed some more. And so it goes on. Stop buying without thinking and none of these ‘difficult decisions’ will have to be made later, and you won’t see hundreds of unwanted companion animals being killed each week at the local dog pound.
You call it bullying; I call it making people aware of the issues. But bullying and truth are very similar: they both hurt.
Stop the flow. Think before you take on an animal you can’t care for. Simple.
[quote=“Stray Dog”]Responsible ‘pet ownership’ begins before you get a companion animal. When you are as deeply involved in the animal-welfare issue, you soon understand that the owner of the beagle made the all-too-common mistake of taking on a cute puppy without considering her ability to care for him or her.
That beagle got sold by a vendor, who, happy knowing there is a market for them, will go and breed some more. And so it goes on. Stop buying without thinking and none of these ‘difficult decisions’ will have to be made later, and you won’t see hundreds of unwanted companion animals being killed each week at the local dog pound.
You call it bullying; I call it making people aware of the issues. But bullying and truth are very similar: they both hurt.
Stop the flow. Think before you take on an animal you can’t care for. Simple.[/quote]
Spare me the drama. Many people think of the aspects, but guess what, Lennon said it best=
You aren’t making people aware of the issues when you condemn them for their choices or their right to choose. And the truth doesn’t have to hurt. Only when there’s malice behind it or judgment or just plain snobbery does it hurt.
Some see malice wherever they look. Right?