"God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Anyone else notice the adverts on the sides of buses lately for a “Supreme Master”, with a large photo of an un-supreme-looking, middle-aged asian woman with her hair dyed light blond, so she looks like an ordinary american housewife, but is apparently trying to bilk people out of their hard-earned money for her church? I’ve seen this funny blond guru before and after googling “Supreme Master” concluded it must be this woman, “God’s Direct Contact,” Ching Hai:

Anyone familiar with her? Anyone believe in her? Anyone know someone sucked into her cult?

Anyone know how a person could possibly take seriously someone who calls him/herself a/the Supreme Master?

Here’s her website: godsdirectcontact.org/

And here are some articles on her by a leading cult expert: rickross.com/groups/suma_ching.html

Chimg Hai has been doing her scam for at least a dozen years. She has a very large Viet Namese following, especially in southern California.
In 1998-99 I was having some labels designed and printed by a rather large printing company that was Viet owned. As these were coming from scratch I worked closely with a designed/artist they had on staff. He was a very talented, though quite lackadaisical guy. In the course of working with him and the printing company he began to tell me stories about the “Chingers” ashe called them - he was definitely not one of them.

The owner of the company, a Viet woman, had decided to throw her lot in with Ching Hai and wound up with a very sizable contract to do al of her english and Viet language printing. A very large contract. She had posters of CH around the plant, lots CH literature laying around, a “meditation room” for employees to use (Bao went there to sleep) and lots of ‘grip&grin’ photos of the Boss Lady and the Ching Hai entourage.

I never could figure out what her shtick was, I know she sold lecture tapes and videos, has a perfume and jewelery line and I think was doing some land investing in Viet Nam at that time.
I also know she was declared Persona Non-Grata in Viet Nam shortly after this time. The commies decided she was skimming too much from their take.

She is still a semi-major figure in the so cali Viet community…but one more of derision than any honors.

Those guys have a ‘shop’ on SongShan Road.

[quote]“It looks to me like one of the fastest-growing cults in the world,” says Dr. Margaret Singer, perhaps the country’s first and foremost cult expert. Dr. Singer, who has been following modern cults since their appearance in the late 1950s . . . considers Ching Hai unusual only in that most large, far-reaching organizations are led by men. . .

Only within the last nine or ten months has she begun receiving calls from men and women. . . almost all from San Francisco and San Jose-- who have lost their spouses to the Ching Hai organization. . . Singer says that the callers also complained about the tremendous sums of money their spouses gave to the Ching Hai organization. . .

A tireless publicity seeker, Ching Hai never misses an opportunity to gain credibility and clout for her organization. She often claims to have been invited to the conspicuously prestigious locations for her lectures–Georgetown University, UCLA and the United Nations buildings in Geneva and New York–but rarely says by whom. . . In Taiwan, the story goes, Ching Hai even set up two front organizations to bestow awards upon her in a public ceremony. . .

Ching Hai’s knack for self-promotion shines in her official biography, which . . . is a paean to the Master’s humility, humanitarian efforts and impressive output of saleable products. . .

. . . the Supreme Master was born Hue Dang Trinh on May 12, 1950, in a small village in Vietnam. . . Trinh then moved to India to study Buddhism. It was here that she became a prize pupil of Thakar Singh.

"Thakar Singh turned out to be the most scandalous guru. . . had embezzled money, indulged in sexual affairs with numerous women, and had engaged in violent interactions with disciples. . . But by the time Singh’s crimes came to light, Ching Hai had already learned from him the “light and sound” meditation technique, and had left for Taiwan.

. . .in Taiwan, in 1983, Trinh studied with a Buddhist nun named Xing-jing. . . Returning to Taiwan in 1986, Ching Hai lured followers away from her former master, Xing-jing, and set up a makeshift temple in an apartment in the Taipei suburbs. . .

And now she is among us in San Jose . . . Cries of adoration greet Ching Hai when she appears in the portals of Gate A8. As she walks, her path is strewn with flowers, prostrate bodies and outstretched hands. She smiles modestly. Once outside, she is escorted into the back seat of a black Isuzu Trooper. She waves to the undulating crowd as the car speeds away, heading for the nearby Red Lion Hotel. For the next hour, the short-term parking lot of the San Jose Airport is jammed with cars heading for the exit to follow her. . .

“Thank you for your love. I don’t know if I’m good enough for you.” She sighs. “I just try to be ordinary citizen. Then someone must come along and remind me I am Supreme Master Suma Ching Hai!” All laugh heartily. . .

Ching Hai wraps up her talk well after midnight. She makes her last rounds through the audience, touching a head here, smiling beatifically there. A black man in African garb shrinks in his seat as she passes, his hands clasped together in worship, sobbing in great gasps, looking into the Master’s face while tears stream down his. . .

According to Millar, the Master’s clothing and jewelry are “very expensive, but it’s very high quality.” In the same breath, Millar also tells me that when the Master wishes to donate money to charities, she establishes a bank account to which followers can contribute. God has certainly been kind to Ching Hai: in 1993, her Los Angeles branch alone took in $395,518. . .

The interview is done, and the Master and I shake hands. . . “You were so close, right next to her,” a wide-eyed girl exclaims, stroking my shoulder.

It occurs to me that I may now be seen on a videotape in the Ching Hai library: the American reporter conducting an interview with the Supreme Master. Our words may end up on a Web site, or in the Suma Ching Hai magazine, or condensed into an aphorism in a book. Against my will, I had become another prop in Ching Hai’s magic show. . .[/quote]
metroactive.com/papers/metro … -9613.html

[quote]In Taiwan she reportedly has 300,000 followers. However, when the government closed down her headquarters (it had been constructed without a license), the sect produced a membership list of only 804 names. . .

The secretary-general of the Taoist Association says he has information that she has bought up vast tracts of land in Cambodia. Master Chinhsing, a Buddhist monk of Vietnamese origin who may have been Ching Hai’s mentor, disapproves of her departure from the austere ways of Buddhist tradition. He has reportedly warned her never to identify herself as his former student. . .[/quote]
time.com/time/magazine/artic … -2,00.html

One of my friend’s GF is her follower.
Sometimes we like to tease her religion, but usually, it turns out to be a fierce debate.

[quote=“kate.lin”]One of my friend’s GF is her follower.
Sometimes we like to tease her religion, but usually, it turns out to be a fierce debate.[/quote]

Do you have any idea how much money she has given to the organization?

Have you ever discussed with her that it seems odd for a religious guru who is supposedly devoted to charitable causes to be so concerned about her physical appearance, to dress in expensive clothing and wear expensive jewelry (aside from the expensive houses she undoubtedly owns and other riches)?

Ching Hai is evil cult.

What do you define ‘Evil’ cult here?

My friend’s GF thinks she is benevolent!

She is from and well-to-do family which denotes huge amount of money to her but no excat number was revealed.

[quote]
Have you ever discussed with her that it seems odd for a religious guru who is supposedly devoted to charitable causes to be so concerned about her physical appearance, to dress in expensive clothing and wear expensive jewelry (aside from the expensive houses she undoubtedly owns and other riches)?[/quote]

I don’t think people could be reasonable when it comes to religion.
She always can find excuses for her guru every time we challenge her.
But to be frank, my friend’s GF is a nice girl.
She finds her spiritual support from her Ching-hai guru seems not that bad.
Anyway, as long as she is happy and, then it is harmless with us.

[quote=“Mother Theresa”][quote=“kate.lin”]One of my friend’s GF is her follower.
Sometimes we like to tease her religion, but usually, it turns out to be a fierce debate.[/quote][/quote]

Do you have any idea how much money she has given to the organization?

Have you ever discussed with her that it seems odd for a religious guru who is supposedly devoted to charitable causes to be so concerned about her physical appearance, to dress in expensive clothing and wear expensive jewelry (aside from the expensive houses she undoubtedly owns and other riches)?[/quote]

That is really arguable as song qi li .
Weird is she has many followers.

Some religious people are unable to be reasonable about their religions, but there are many who can. The problem is that there are a lot of non-religious people who can’t be reasonable about other people’s religions and because they take an unreasonable position, those who normally can be reasonable often become unreasonable as well.

Pretty much any time you go up with the obvious intent and purpose of showing someone that they have a riidiculous belief, they are going to get defensive.

Perhaps you shouldn’t challenge her, then. Try using understanding and sharing enlightened philosophy without ever attacking her beliefs or the one she believes in.


Considering the nature of Buddhist belief (mixed with Chinese folk religion), it’s no surprise that this woman is getting a following. Consider Wong Tai Sin in Hong Kong and Ma Tzu in Taiwan. These were ordinary people who at least had the appearance of doing good works and after they died were deified. There are scores of Buddhist masters who claim that they are enlightened, have mystical powers, and can offer salvation. These people attract followers. The Catholic Church is in the process of investigating whether or not John Paul II is a saint.

The question is mostly whether or not this woman is dangerous or if she is using immoral practices to obtain other people’s money. If she is, then forewarned is forearmed. Religious scams are not uncommon.

However, she could be sincere in her belief in her own enlightenment (whether it is true or not) and may be accepting donations and funds in good faith. She may dress richly in order to attract more people to the teachings that she is offering.

Skepticism is warranted. Derision and alarmism is not.

Well let’s see. She calls herself the Supreme Master and wrote a completely fictional autobiography that mentions nothing of her previous involvement with a violent cult; her meditation techniques are secret and only taught to initiates; psychologists and cult experts tell us the Ching Hai meditation techniques induce people into trace states where their higher reasoning skills break down and they become receptive to teachings; she refuses to directly answer questions about funding; spouses complain about the huge amount of money the member spouse sends to the organization; member wives are told by the organization they have lost their “sexual energy” and consequently refuse to have sex with their husbands; members are encouraged to leave non-believing families and dedicate themselves to new Ching Hai restaurants and other businesses; she lies about being invited to speak at universities and political institutions; she created funded two puppet groups in Taiwan to bestow “public” awards on her; she claims to sleep in plastic tents and preaches asceticism, but according to an active member (who apparently does not see the irony), she actually lives in a large, luxurious home, and it is her followers who sleep in pup tents in her yard. In fact there is no evidence she lives ascetically at all. She wears fancy clothes, has her own fashion and perfume lines, and enjoys associates with other aristocrats.

I think a little more than skepticism is warranted here. She is an obvious fraud and is scamming people out of their money and ruining many lives in the process.

Anyone familiar with her? Anyone believe in her? Anyone know someone sucked into her cult?

my ex-wife

more info
ramsss.com/ching-hai/

She has her own satellite and cable accessed TV channel, called “Surpreme Master TV”. I was quite bemused as I sat in the Taidong railway station, munching bian dang and watching her show on one of the big-screen TV’s in the waiting hall. She seems like the typical egomaniac guru type, complete with flaky followers with glazed eyes and vacant, joyful grins.

Shouldn’t she be “Supreme Mistress”? Or is that just too kinky sounding?

Yes, she will suck you in. Then take your money.
Please visit www.cultwatch.com
I am trying to show everyone how this whole thing works…
She will make you buy her tapes, books…etc
Starting with her little blue book, wanna be “Mao”? Brain wash step number one:

s808.photobucket.com/albums/zz10 … ibullshit/

Great book! I can use it to start my own freaky cult.

Yea, the book does answer my question about whether it’s a batshit crazy cult or not. :loco:

[quote=“chinghai bullshit”]Yes, she will suck you in. Then take your money.
Please visit cultwatch.com [/quote]
Hmmm… Cultwatch happens to be run by religionists. Christians, to be exact. I find this quite ironic: “Don’t believe in those religions… they’re false. Ours, however, happens to be true!”

Physician, heal thyself!