Gore, 2008 US President

I’ll try to get this wandering thread back on topic this weekend.

I noticed TC’s Bash-Gore thread imploded through its illogicalities, and is hence lost in cyber space and inaccessible :laughing: . That’s what you’re up against TC, Al after all created the internet. :smiley: (I thought you as a creationalist would appreciate him more for that)

cspan.org/ - date 3/21/2007 on the first page, video/audio recent programs…
Al did an amazing job in the Congress/Senate this week-I watched most of it. Such a Statesman. Such civil discourse (apart from primate Inhofe :loco: ). Comparisons are odious, but in this (and almost every other imaginable) case it’s clear that Bush is an idiot and the world is poorer for the Supreme Court cheat. Hopefully enough Republicans are prepared to move forwards and ignore insidious Inhofe (ha! got his ears bashed in, scolded like the adolescent boy he is, by a wonderful Barbara Boxer), work for by partisan consensus to get real improvements. However, we may have to wait till Al is elected the second time next year. Hopefully other nations move/innovate by themselves and America is left with less power over the technology.

Al Gore is to be much admired for his tireless work for the USA and the world.

Edit to leave TC with the last word for now:
Funny post below, TC, I larffed I did, since…1. the cartoons and satire are slightly amusing, being so clearly dated and/or shallow…2. By posting so quick, you yet again show your unwillingness to be substantive. Did you bother listening to Al Gore’s Senate testimony in its entirety? Thought not. Well, keep clinging desperately to your pre-held beliefs, you old codger.

An Inconvenient conference - Joe Warmington, Toronto Sun, March 22, 2007

Gore Welcomed By Protesters During Toronto Visit - citynews.ca, March 22, 2007

Gore Makes Star Debut in Toronto as Global Warming Prophet - Peter J. Smith, lifesite, March 22, 2007

p.s. - my threads better…

[quote=“TainanCowboy”]
Here is Specialist algore sighting in on the enemy.
Al Gore Served in Vietnam…for < 5 months. Bien Hoa was OK!

go algore go!

(Did you know John Kerry was in Viet Nam?)
[/quote]

At least he volunteered and made it over there, that’s a lot more than we can say for the current president and vice president. Puleeeeze, TC. :unamused:

Bodo

[quote]"[url=http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9047642]The planet has a fever," Gore said. “If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor. If the doctor says you need to intervene here, you don’t say, ‘Well, I read a science-fiction novel that tells me it’s not a problem.’”

Even once-skeptical Republicans are coming over to Gore’s side — and it seems the debate has shifted from arguing whether there is a climate crisis to disagreement over how to fix it.
. . . .
Members of the committee, Democrats and Republicans alike, listened very carefully to Gore, as they seemed to take to heart his final message: that in a few years this whole debate will look very different.

“This is not a partisan issue, this is a moral issue,” Gore said. “And our children are going to be demanding this[/url].”[/quote]

Hey . . . but remember to take this with a grain of salt . . . it was published by the biased mainstream media (NPR). :unamused:

[quote]One evening last December, in front of nearly 2,000 people at Stanford’s Memorial Auditorium, Al Gore spoke in uncharacteristically personal and passionate terms . . . . Gore had plenty to say about thinning polar ice caps, shrinking glaciers, rising carbon dioxide concentrations, spiking temperatures, and hundreds of other data points he has woven into an overpowering slide show detailing the catastrophic changes affecting the earth’s climate. The audience was filled with Silicon Valley luminaries: Apple’s Steve Jobs; Google’s Larry Page and Eric Schmidt; Internet godfather Vint Cerf; Yahoo!'s Jerry Yang; venture capitalists John Doerr, Bill Draper, and Vinod Khosla; former Clinton administration defense secretary William Perry; and a cross section of CEOs, startup artists, techies, tinkerers, philanthropists, and investors of every political and ethnic stripe.
. . . .

Working together, we can find the technologies and the political will to solve this problem." The crowd fell hard. “People were surprised,” says Wendy Schmidt, who helped organize the event and, with her husband, Google CEO Eric Schmidt, supported Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign. “They think of a slide show about science, they think of Al Gore. But they come out later and say, ‘He’s funny, he’s passionate, he’s real.’”
. . . .

Along the way, Gore has become a neo-green entrepreneur, taking his messianic faith in the power of technology to stop global warming and applying it to an ecofriendly investment firm. The company, Generation Investment Management, which he cofounded nearly two years ago, puts money into businesses that are positioned to capitalize on the carbon-constrained economy Gore and his partners see coming in the near future. All the while, he has been busy polishing his reputation as the ultimate wired citizen: Not far from the Stanford campus, Gore sits on the board of directors at Apple and serves as a senior adviser to Google. Farther up Highway 101 are the San Francisco headquarters of Current TV, the youth-oriented cable network he cofounded with legal entrepreneur Joel Hyatt. [/quote]

Interesting article on Gore in Wired. Smart guy, smart investor.

Barak Obama and Al Gore would be a nice ticket in 2008.

There does seem to be a bit of a buzz about a possible run for 2008, but accounts say that Tipper is not interested in the least, and that she is Gore’s number one advisor. So, who knows . . .

algore is my #1 choice for 2008 Demo party Presidential candidate!

Gore was great at Congress, started hesitantly at the Senate, and after Inhofe made himslef look like a petulant child, Gore relaxed and did well there too. I hope he can continue the momentum and that others in power respond, and seize his ideas to improve the enviroment for now and the future…

This is a balanced review of Gore’s presentation to the Congress and Senate.
sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prome … rance.html

Here are Al’s 10 recommendations:

–An immediate “carbon freeze” that would cap U.S. CO2 emissions at current levels, followed by a program to generate 90% reductions by 2050.
–Start a long-term tax shift to reduce payroll taxes and increase taxes on CO2 emissions.
–Put aside a portion of carbon tax revenues to help low-income people make the transition.
–Create a strong international treaty by working toward “de facto compliance with Kyoto” and moving up the start date for Kyoto’s successor from 2012 to 2010.
–Implement a moratorium on construction of new coal-fired power plants that are not compatible with carbon capture and sequestration.
–Create an “ELECTRANET” – a smart electricity grid that allows individuals and businesses to feed power back in at prevailing market rates.
–Raise CAFE standards.
–Set a date for a ban on incandescent light bulbs.
–Create “Connie Mae,” a carbon-neutral mortgage association, to help defray the upfront costs of energy-efficient building.
–Have the SEC require disclosure of carbon emissions in corporate reporting, as a relevant “material risk.”

Here’s Al’s blog:
blog.algore.com/
-the top link, Keith Olbermann on Al’s visit to Capitol Hill, is good
blog.algore.com/2007/03/keith_ol … sit_t.html

And a quote from AG:
[i]"I had a really interesting day at the House and Sen ate. Having served in both houses for several years, I was struck by how many members now accept the scientific consensus on the climate crisis. Of course there were a few who did not -but that wasn’t a surprise. The fact that the naysayers are increasingly isolated is very encouraging.

There was a big reaction in both the House and Senate when I told them about the more than 519,000 of you who signed the powerful messages I delivered yesterday. In fact since the hearing I have already had a lot of follow-up contacts from members of the committee wanting to introduce legislation that embodies the recommendations I offered. I was also contacted by many others, who want to solve the climate crisis and put it at the top of the Congressional agenda.

I am particularly grateful to Chairman Dingell and Gordon on the House side. And of course on the Senate side Chairwoman Boxer brought the hearing room to spontaneous applause when she held up the gavel and informed Senator Inhofe he’s not in charge anymore

That was a moment that made me smile."[/i]

…go algore gooo!

TainanCowboy wrote: [quote]…go algore gooo![/quote]

Absolutely. I’m a big fan, too. In fact, I always make my woman wear an Al Gore mask when we are engaged in bedroom activities.

Oh man…thats deeply weird on sooo many levels…

Just when you thought it couldn’t get any sillier…

draftgore.com/

Time to bump this thread up again. I am patiently waiting and expect that if he does decide to run (and give up the good life he’s built out of politics), any announcement will come at the earliest in September, and possibly November-January.

At this stage, with his new book out, he’s doing the talk show circuit and book signings, and riding ever increasing momentum. Over 100k Americans have signed a petition calling on him to run for President-but that should pick up steam over the next 4 months.

I read a report he’s resumed working out as well, to trim down.

I haven’t a clue if he’ll get a Nobel-he deserves it, but I recall an environmentalist won a few years ago-and I haven’t scanned the other nominees.

This story, Al Gore as President, excites many republicans as well. Those that aren’t too partisan or too old (those tend to cling stubbornly to George Bush in spite of the mess he’s made). Those that worry for America, not just about themselves. I have found that most republicans posting here are already too embittered and cynical to be interesting, or interested. :loco:

I think that Gore’s present popularity is linked to the fact that no one is talking policy with him. Sure they talk climate change, but they don’t talk much US domestic policy, health care, immigration, taxes, social security, medicare, foreign policy, the war machine…etc.

If you think that Gore won’t be pounded for Clinton’s fuck ups, you wrong.

I like drama though. Run Al!

[quote=“jdsmith”]I think that Gore’s present popularity is linked to the fact that no one is talking policy with him. Sure they talk climate change, but they don’t talk much US domestic policy, health care, immigration, taxes, social security, medicare, foreign policy, the war machine…etc.

If you think that Gore won’t be pounded for Clinton’s fuck ups, you wrong.

I like drama though. Run Al![/quote]

You’re probably right. I do think he can handle the debate on those issues, but maybe that’s wishful thinking. He’s got the substance, but has he got the nimbleness, and does he want it? Anyway, I’m enjoying the present bubble.

[quote=“Monkey D. Luffy”][quote=“jdsmith”]I think that Gore’s present popularity is linked to the fact that no one is talking policy with him. Sure they talk climate change, but they don’t talk much US domestic policy, health care, immigration, taxes, social security, medicare, foreign policy, the war machine…etc.

If you think that Gore won’t be pounded for Clinton’s fuck ups, you wrong.

I like drama though. Run Al![/quote]

You’re probably right. I do think he can handle the debate on those issues, but maybe that’s wishful thinking. He’s got the substance, but has he got the nimbleness, and does he want it? Anyway, I’m enjoying the present bubble.[/quote]

He did horribly in the debates with Bush.