Got a speeding ticket :(

Doing 104km/h in a 90km/h stretch. Fine was NT$3000.

Cameras appeared to be average speed cameras, mounted on an overhead road sign, taking a photo of the rear of your car. This is new to me, I thought the speed cameras here were just based on your speed where the camera was.

What happens if you do 110+km/h? The fine seemed to imply there is a maximum of 20km/h over the speed limit.

Does Taiwan operate a points system and if so, have points been deducted? The penalties section just says $3000, no mention about points.

Is there any point in a “Sorry I will pay more attention to my speed next time” appeal?

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No, pay it and pay it quickly or they will increase the fine.

Overhead cameras might imply a policeman with a handheld camera on an overpass. Also points do get deducted if over a certain amount, I got one deducted a while back, but as you note it has to be over at least 20km an hour over the limit, there’s another bracket too I think.

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I know someone who used to tape reflective sticker around their license plate number in an effort to defeat cameras. I don’t know if it even works but I’m surprised no one gets pulled over for this.

OK will do.

Possible, but I think fixed cameras are more likely. They calculated my average speed based on two photographs a few km apart. The photographs were timed down to the milisecond.

To do it with policemen on an overpass would require taking two picture sources, ensuring both sources have accurate timestamps, with accurate GPS coordinates, matching the car with both and then cross-referencing to calculate the average speed. It is possible to automate this method too, but it would require more effort.

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May work but if one gets caught I imagine there would be hell to pay, not just a fine but possibly a criminal prosecution.

You would think, but people I know who do it thinks nothing of it.

In the states you do that and you’ve given the officer all kinds of probable cause to search you top to bottom.

Ah “a few km apart” I heard they were thinking of putting this into action, that’s a heads up for those who know where all the speed cameras are and slow down for the speed cameara and then go right back to the previous speed.

I know in the states they have the so called speed limit enforced by aircraft thing, where they time the amount of time it takes to cross two lines, and the time is used to calculate your average speed.

It’s really easy to defeat the system unless the camera has ai that can read instant speeds.

I saw the reflective sticker thing busted on mythbuster. This was probably 10+ years ago. Camera’s have gotten a lot better now.

In certain countries I’ve seen a smoked (tinted) licence plate cover that makes the plate readable up close but not from too far away. Illegal but unless the cop had it out for you for something else they usually don’t care.
I assume it’s to defeat cameras

Why aren’t you using an app like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iknow99.ezetc&hl=zh_TW ? There are others that show you all the cameras, too.

For me, fines in Taiwan is basically just road tax. You don’t get any points or other consequences. Just pay and it’s all good. I am one of those who like driving in Taiwan. I just drive with the traffic and never stress about the speed limit.

I went 20 over in Virginia and had to actually go to court as it’s a misdemeanor charge and not just a normal traffic violation.

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I pretty much mapped out in my mind every camera in the city I lived in. The sneaky ones are the ones the cops set up in the night that are mobile. Those got me a few times

I used an app by Aegis Studio ( 神盾測速照相) but found it gave false positive and false negative warnings. In the end I don’t use it anymore.

My theory was that if you aren’t paying enough attention to notice the speed cameras by the side of the road, you should take a break.

Average speed cameras on overpasses or overhead road signs - I hadn’t taken into account.

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Australia has some Average Speed Cameras, but mostly for Heavy Vehicles, not cars, though the State of Victoria use them for cars too.

Cameras in the State of NSW have Advance warning signs and are clearly visible, and many Intersections have combined Red Light and Speed Cameras.

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I would almost be willing to hand over my first born child to have at least the Red Light Camera part installed throughout Taiwan.

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I have the dubious distinction of getting a ticket from the very first Red Light Camera that was installed in Sydney about 30 years ago. Cost me AUD168 too. It has made me watch the speed as well as the lights, and I have only got one more for speeding in 1998, though that was not a Camera one, as a Cop coming the other way got me near Canberra. I knew I was done when he flashed his lights and then did a U-Turn after we passed. 124 in a 100 zone, but he reduced it to 114, which dropped the fine amount (they go in 15kmh increments), so I had to be nice to him.

Cruise Control of course helps these days though it can really only be used when traffic isn’t thick.

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Mind you, on my trip to Taoyuan Airport 2 weeks ago at about 8pm on Freeway 2, the taxi that I was in was overtaken by a few cars (separately, not together) that I reckon must have been travelling at about 150 - we were on 110 at the time - swerving in and out too, suicide driving.

Here I recently saw an old car where they painted over the license plate with white paint and redrew the numbers with a shaky hand. :joy:

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Was that just because the old plate was flaked off so they repainted it vs getting a new plate?