Got into an argument with a bus driver

[user86]

@Marco

You might argue the bus driver unlawfully confined you

I doubt it. It wasn’t a bus stop, so he didn’t have to open the doors for him.

[Marco]

@user86

@Marco

You might argue the bus driver unlawfully confined you

I doubt it. It wasn’t a bus stop, so he didn’t have to open the doors for him.

I think you missed this.

@ninman

He wouldn’t shut up, so I said I wanted to complain to his boss. At that point he pulled the bus over to a bus stop and called the police, so I decided to leave the bus, but he refused to open the doors.

[ninman]

It was a bus stop.

[BiggusDickus]

Go to the bus depot with an expensive bottle of whiskey and apologies? He might be reasonable.

[user86]

@ninman

just as I got to the door the driver closed it. I knocked on the door, but the driver just drove off.

Once the doors are closed, the bus is as good as gone. If they’re not behind schedule, they might be nice and reopen them. But don’t count on it.

I’m sorry this happened. I don’t think there is much you can do beyond calling a lawyer. Even they may not be able to help you, no less the people on this forum.

[Hayashi]

@comfy123

avoid that middle finger at all costs in Taiwan.

Is that actually a crime in Taiwan?

[Marco]

@BiggusDickus

Go to the bus depot with an expensive bottle of whiskey and apologies? He might be reasonable.

It’s also admitting fault. An unscrupulous person might continue unless you also bring a contract.

[BiggusDickus]

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

Go to the bus depot with an expensive bottle of whiskey and apologies? He might be reasonable.

It’s also admitting fault. An unscrupulous person might continue unless you also bring a contract.

True, but IME most people avoid lawfare. It seems that there’s likely to be evidence proving he’s at fault, anyway.

[crusher]

@Hayashi

@comfy123

avoid that middle finger at all costs in Taiwan.

Is that actually a crime in Taiwan?

Yes , absolutely.

[Marco]

@Hayashi

@comfy123

avoid that middle finger at all costs in Taiwan.

Is that actually a crime in Taiwan?

Yes.

[user86]

Ah, right. I missed the part where he kept driving until he reached the next bus stop before pulling over to call the police.

In this case, you might be able to sue him for unlawful detention.

[Marco]

@BiggusDickus

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

Go to the bus depot with an expensive bottle of whiskey and apologies? He might be reasonable.

It’s also admitting fault. An unscrupulous person might continue unless you also bring a contract.

True, but IME most people avoid lawfare.

I’ve had a boss admit to the police that I worked illegally for him. I didn’t, but he was that willing to shoot himself in the foot to spite me.

I know not to underestimate small dick energy.

[Hayashi]

@Marco

@Hayashi

Is that actually a crime in Taiwan?

Yes.

What crime is it? Threatening the other person? I ask because understanding the intent of the law can help in avoiding similar situations that might also be illegal.

[Marco]

Public Insult

Face and reputation are highly regarded in Asian society. Outside of the free speech argument, damage to reputation can have effects on your life here.

https://law.moj.gov.tw/ENG/LawClass/LawParaDeatil.aspx?pcode=C0000001&bp=44

[crusher]

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

Go to the bus depot with an expensive bottle of whiskey and apologies? He might be reasonable.

It’s also admitting fault. An unscrupulous person might continue unless you also bring a contract.

True, but IME most people avoid lawfare.

I’ve had a boss admit to the police that I worked illegally for him. I didn’t, but he was that willing to shoot himself in the foot to spite me.

I know not to underestimate small dick energy.

That’s true , but most bus drivers tend to be old school and forgiving. Unlike most xenophobic psycho cram school bosses.

[Marco]

@crusher

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

Go to the bus depot with an expensive bottle of whiskey and apologies? He might be reasonable.

It’s also admitting fault. An unscrupulous person might continue unless you also bring a contract.

True, but IME most people avoid lawfare.

I’ve had a boss admit to the police that I worked illegally for him. I didn’t, but he was that willing to shoot himself in the foot to spite me.

I know not to underestimate small dick energy.

That’s true , but most bus drivers tend to be old school and forgiving. Unlike most xenophobic psycho cram school bosses.

I got into a couple scraps with bus drivers too. But I didn’t publicly insult him so the cops metaphorically told him to f off and keep driving.

The other one he did a similar thing to me as OP but I caught up with the second bus to get back on and told him he didn’t see me. He absolutely lost it and I recorded part of it but I didn’t take legal action. Too much on plate then.

[crusher]

@Marco

@crusher

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

Go to the bus depot with an expensive bottle of whiskey and apologies? He might be reasonable.

It’s also admitting fault. An unscrupulous person might continue unless you also bring a contract.

True, but IME most people avoid lawfare.

I’ve had a boss admit to the police that I worked illegally for him. I didn’t, but he was that willing to shoot himself in the foot to spite me.

I know not to underestimate small dick energy.

That’s true , but most bus drivers tend to be old school and forgiving. Unlike most xenophobic psycho cram school bosses.

I got into a couple scraps with bus drivers too. But I didn’t publicly insult him so the cops metaphorically told him to f off and keep driving.

I think most old timers here have had run ins with bus drivers. I think bus drivers have run ins with just about everyone.
On the other hand imagine have to drive that tin can through Taipei or even worse through New Taipei city every day for years on end.

[Marco]

@crusher

@Marco

@crusher

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

@Marco

@BiggusDickus

Go to the bus depot with an expensive bottle of whiskey and apologies? He might be reasonable.

It’s also admitting fault. An unscrupulous person might continue unless you also bring a contract.

True, but IME most people avoid lawfare.

I’ve had a boss admit to the police that I worked illegally for him. I didn’t, but he was that willing to shoot himself in the foot to spite me.

I know not to underestimate small dick energy.

That’s true , but most bus drivers tend to be old school and forgiving. Unlike most xenophobic psycho cram school bosses.

I got into a couple scraps with bus drivers too. But I didn’t publicly insult him so the cops metaphorically told him to f off and keep driving.

I think most old timers here have had run ins with bus drivers. I think bus drivers have run ins with just about everyone.
On the other hand imagine have to drive that tin can through Taipei or even worse through New Taipei city every day for years in end.

The pay is so good. I would just say shutup and do your job lmao.

[user86]

@Hayashi

What crime is it?

Public insult is a crime here even if what you are saying about your target is true. The only scenario where it is legal is when your intention was not to insult, but to inform and warn others of the truth. That usually only works if your target is a well-known official/celebrity or a well-known business.

[ninman]

Ok, so how likely is it that this guy takes legal action?