Government wants more foreigners

Recently, I caught this on the news:

CNA, July 13th: CEPD DRAFTS PLAN FOR ATTRACTING WHITE-COLLAR IMMIGRANTS

Taipei Times, July 14: CEPD working on plan to recruit foreign experts
taipeitimes.com/News/biz/arc … 2003369546

A few points of interest I found are:

  1. Taiwan will enter a period of negative population growth from 2019. :help:

  2. Trained foreign professionals are deemed a solution.

  3. They want to follow the lead of “immigration regulations adopted by Singapore and Japan”.

  4. “Foreign economic, financial and technological personnel under 40 years of age, particularly those from countries with a per capita national income lower than Taiwan’s, will be prime targets under the plan”. Examples: Ukraine, India

  5. Immigration authorities state that: The small number of foreign white-collar professionals, coupled with their excessive concentration in just three professions, particularly teaching, indicates that incentives and job opportunities for foreigners remain limited in Taiwan.

The optimist in me thinks that maybe there could be hope for relaxing those regulations that need it while tightening the ones required to assure fair play. The pessimist believes there is plenty of room for trouble. What do you think?

Taiwan going for the creme’ de le creme’!

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CEPD working on plan to recruit foreign experts
SUSTAINING GROWTH: Given the nation’s declining birth rate, more foreign professionals and skilled workers must be encouraged to work in Taiwan, the council says

STAFF WRITER, WITH CNA
Saturday, Jul 14, 2007, Page 11

The Council for Economic Planning and Development (CEPD) has drafted a plan to attract investment and skilled immigrants in light of the country’s falling birth rate and slowing population growth, an official said yesterday.

The council has estimated that Taiwan will enter a period of negative population growth from 2019, the official said. Trained foreign professionals and young skilled workers must be recruited to sustain development, he said.

The council has conducted a feasibility study on attracting investment and skilled immigrants and reviewed immigration regulations adopted by Singapore and Japan, he said.

Foreign economic, financial and technological personnel under 40 years of age, particularly those from countries with a per capita national income lower than Taiwan’s, will be prime targets under the plan, he said.

East European countries could be a good source of personnel, he said, noting that Ukraine has an advanced defense industry.

According to the council’s plan, Taiwan could take in up to 1 million skilled and investment immigrants by 2050. In the first category, chief executives, fund managers, scientists, engineers, medical doctors, graduate students, skilled technicians and special professionals would be welcomed.

Those seeking investment immigration would have to invest a specified amount of money in launching a new business, expanding their existing businesses, purchasing real estate or depositing a large amount of cash in local banks.

The immigration promotion plan still focuses on theoretical model analysis and collection of information on relevant foreign regulations and systems, he said.

The council study shows that Britain has embraced 600,000 new immigrants since it adopted an open-door immigration policy in 2004, the official said, which has had a strong impact on British society, including its job market.

In Singapore, foreign-born residents account for 18 percent of the city-state’s population.

sSingapore has tied investment to immigration, offering permanent residency to those who set up companies or launch investment projects in the city state.

The council official said the government will evaluate all the possible impacts on the nation’s income, economy and job market once the new immigration policy is put into practice.

The official said the government would not close the door to qualified Chinese high-tech personnel. But given the cross-strait situation, the government must make a further review before embracing other Chinese immigrants, he said.

According to National Immigration Agency statistics, there are 314,000-plus foreign laborers and more than 14,000 foreign white-collar workers in the country.

Of the latter group, more than 5,000 are teachers, more than 3,000 are business professionals and more than 2,000 are engineers.

The small number of foreign white-collar professionals, coupled with their excessive concentration in just three professions, particularly teaching, indicates that incentives and job opportunities for foreigners remain limited in Taiwan, immigration officials said."[/i][/quote]

Yes this is part of Taiwan’s plan to become an Asia-Pacific Regional Operations Centre by the year 2000. Er. Um.

[quote=“Lord Lucan”]Yes this is part of Taiwan’s plan to become an Asia-Pacific Regional Operations Centre by the year 2000. Er. Um.[/quote]Damn, you beat me to it.

Of course they want all these things to happen. Problem is, they will then prevent it from happening by making as difficult as possible to get basic services for the very people they wish to attract. Y’know, things like cell phones, credit, bank accounts, driver’s licenses and so on. The usual shoot-yourself-in-the-foot policies that result from foot-dragging, bloody-mindedness and institutionalized racism.

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when you are already the worlds second most populated place, a little negative population growth may be a good thing.

how bout making it easier for the foreigners who are already in TAiwan to remain in Taiwan? So they can be attracted by the local ladies and make more babies? Without fear that they will be singled out for “special treatment” ? HOw bout citizenship for people born in Taiwan, and for people who have a Taiwan parent or Taiwan ancestry?

Do they really need INDIANS?? (not to be prejudiced, but whats wrong with the phillippinos and indonesians and thai and other asians that seem to be discriminated against? )

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Because Indians are generally highly educated and fluent in English, but suffer from unemployment or underemployment. Lots of qualified Indians looking for professional jobs.

Up to one million eastern europeans and indians to Taiwans 23 million existing population will certainly change the island. I dont understand why it needs more people though? To have a over-all younger population I guess. Too many oldsters and not enough youngsters I guess. How about brazillians? That ought to brighten up the local color?? Lets bring in one million eastern euros and latin americanos. Then we can have polish sausages and lots of salsa dancing. Viva enchillada.

I hope they succeed. I love Indian food.

I for one would love a little multiculturalism in Taiwan… right now its borrring as hell. Lets make Taiwan the 51st state as well…

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Too bad Singapore has beaten Taiwan to the line and they’re doing a damn fine job at it if you ask me.

Creating new jobs such as trying to revitalize their IT sector, promoting SG as Asia’s major financial hub and not to mention developing recreation activities by opening up casino’s, building luxury apartments, golf courses, resorts, beaches… everything a well cashed up westerner wants.

What does Taiwan offer? Binlang?

I am surprised the mono-ethnic (pretty much) Taiwanese are even considering mass immigration of non-chinese. Thats a major shift in thinking I would say. Maybe like EVA air finding out that having crews of other ethnicities is working out pretty good, Taiwan is considering some ethnic tolerance?

[quote=“frokky”]Too bad Singapore has beaten Taiwan to the line and they’re doing a damn fine job at it if you ask me.

Creating new jobs such as trying to revitalize their IT sector, promoting SG as Asia’s major financial hub and not to mention developing recreation activities by opening up casino’s, building luxury apartments, golf courses, resorts, beaches… everything a well cashed up westerner wants.

What does Taiwan offer? Binlang?[/quote]

that’s the truth… boy has the boat sailed on this one, apart from it’s obvious governmental shortcomings and crappy environment, Taiwan is geographically challenged as well… no matter how you slice and spin it, Taiwan finishes a pretty poor second to any number of it’s South East Asian neighbours on almost any criteria you could dream up other than the teaching English, engineering and trade business categories it’s already got… :idunno:

I sincerely doubt that anything will ever really come from this since no matter how much the government thinktanks [sic] say Taiwan needs to attract foreign white collars, when push comes to shove, they’ll just never be able to get over the kneejerk xenophobia that defines the MOFA and government policy regarding foreign workers… my prediction, they’ll spend a zillion dollars on trying, but blow it trying to have their cake and eat it too…

Don’t hold your breath waiting for Patel to deliver that curry, dude.

HG

Per usual Taiwan, a $ short and a day late.

Too bad too, since the overall quality of life in Taiwan is quite good.

In other words, foreigners who will be reluctant to complain about the blatant racism of government policies, because, although they may be treated as second-class citizens, at least they have jobs here.

I think Taiwan has a long way to go before it even begins to approach the point of comparing itself with Hong Kong or Singapore. As has been discussed in many other threads, the inherent racism of government policies and sanctioning of private-sector racism will have to disappear before Taiwan will ever be able to “enter the race”.

HK was long considered a Citystate. Of course now its heavily influenced by China. Singapore is a true Citystate. Therefore its a whole lot easier to implement and adjust social policies then on an island the size of Holland (Taiwan). And Taiwan in turn is a lot easier to manage then a “real” country like the USA , etc.

That being said I think that the Taiwanese government once again is not paying full attention to what their policies will entail. They think that they can have guest workers like Germany has with its Turkish immigrants. But they should realize that the Turks who came and stayed and had children now considered Germany their home. And in most cases second generation Turkish immigrants were more German then Turk.

Is Taiwan thinking that having white collar foreigners in large numbers in Taiwan is a good stop gap measure if/ when Taiwan needs the foreign man power and know how? And like its large numbers of blue collar Asian workers can be thrown out if need be? It is a gross violation of human rights to prevent those who have become long term residents of Taiwan from becoming full citizens. Are Taiwanese in general willing to consider the idea of non Chinese Taiwanese? Not talking about the original inhabitants of Taiwan who are the “real” Taiwanese in the first place.

I think that they are only thinking of allowing foreign white collar workers in if and when it suits them and not planning or really thinking ahead.

Do they not think that having ONE MILLION extra foreigners in Taiwan wont require a paradigm shift in thinking? The social fabric of Taiwan will greatly change. Human rights will have to protected. Heck, in short Taiwan would have to be like AMERICA.

Yep… please spell out these blatant racist poilics for us all to see.

Maybe some of you guys should try living in other Asian countries and compare them all not just Singapre HK Japan.

Why not Myanmar… or Laos?

Of course the racism is so endemic that Taiwan will do an Idi Amin and ask all the asians to leave.

That would please you all no doubt.

Yep… please spell out these blatant racist poilics for us all to see.

Maybe some of you guys should try living in other Asian countries and compare them all not just Singapre HK Japan.

Why not Myanmar… or Laos?

Of course the racism is so endemic that Taiwan will do an Idi Amin and ask all the asians to leave.

That would please you all no doubt.[/quote]

Some of us have higher hopes and expectations for Taiwan than Myanmar (global leper) and Laos.

I thought it already is! :America:

I thought it already is! :America:[/quote]

Then why do I still need a visa to go to America?