Granola and muesli

Is there anywhere in Taipei that sells granola? Not the stuff in a box, but the healthy stuff. I used to buy it at whole Foods in the US (even the big chains were carrying it the last time I was there), but the only thing I can find in Taiwan are the sugary cereals. I can’t even find Grape Nuts anymore :frowning:

Please refrain from any granola eating joke :sunglasses:

Jasons etc.

Contact Christine at Granola House:
http://www.granola-house.com

Plenty muesli on sale, but it’s not cheap, a box of any decent stuff is NT$200+

Florida Bakery

[quote=“asiababy”]Contact Christine at Granola House:
http://www.granola-house.com[/quote]

Wow, that is really pricey. NT290 for 300 grams.

Most of the stuff in the import supermarkets isn’t much cheaper to be honest…

Considering most granola is oats, some kind of nuts, maybe raisins, something sweet and a bit of oil… yeah, it’s not cheap…

[quote=“TheLostSwede”]Most of the stuff in the import supermarkets isn’t much cheaper to be honest…

Considering most granola is oats, some kind of nuts, maybe raisins, something sweet and a bit of oil… yeah, it’s not cheap…[/quote]

At Jason’s the german stuff is NT290 for a kilo isn’t it?

OK, hate to ‘do a Dragonbones’, here, but it’s really easy to make, y’know? Oats, maple syrup, pecans or something, and fruit or seeds, toast it and stick it in an airtight box.

Ya and I’ll add a dollop of homemade peanut butter made ith organic Kinmen nuts, and top with non-sweetened yoghurt made not with a yoghurt starter but a batch of ancidophulus rich yoghurt that my mom sent over from Saltspring island. You know the stuff I also use to make my sourdough muffins. I should have a great appetite, or be set for bed, when my breakfast is ready to eat.

[quote=“Mucha Man”][quote=“TheLostSwede”]Most of the stuff in the import supermarkets isn’t much cheaper to be honest…

Considering most granola is oats, some kind of nuts, maybe raisins, something sweet and a bit of oil… yeah, it’s not cheap…[/quote]

At Jason’s the german stuff is NT290 for a kilo isn’t it?[/quote]

More like 400-500 grams, not a kilo mate, I think you’ve mixed up your measurements somewhere.

Btw, making yougurt is dead simple and not a chore, I make it several times a week (as I eat it daily).

:laughing: Yup. And for maple syrup, pecans, and dried fruit (figs, blueberries, etc.), try Costco.

I finally learned from Wikipedia that, technically, granola is baked, whereas muesli is unbaked. But is there actually a difference in common usage or as things are sold?

(I’ve seen lots and lots of things labelled muesli here, but I don’t remember seeing anything called granola. Mind you, I tend just to look at the picture and then the percentage of fruit content.)

[quote=“lostinasia”]I finally learned from Wikipedia that, technically, granola is baked, whereas muesli is unbaked. But is there actually a difference in common usage or as things are sold?

(I’ve seen lots and lots of things labelled muesli here, but I don’t remember seeing anything called granola. Mind you, I tend just to look at the picture and then the percentage of fruit content.)[/quote]

Yeah, I think there’s a difference. I always see muesli as a bag or sometimes box of loose, dry uncooked stuff. Granola comes as boxed cereal with visible, crunchy and usually overly sweetened clumps, or pressed into bar form, both baked, with honey, and oil. A lot of them have so much sugar and fat and oil (often in the horribly unhealthy trans-fat-laden hydrogenated form) in them that they aren’t all that different from candy, IMO. They often disguise the sugar content by separating it into multiple forms including less obvious ones, e.g. sugar, fructose, malt extract, dextrose, maize syrup, malt flavoring, grape juice concentrate, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup solids, honey, isoglucose, maple syrup, sucrose, raisins, and so on. They also hide the sugar within other ingredients (in soy nuggets: soy protein isolate, rice flour, barley malt extract, evaporated cane juice…), or in peanut butter (peanuts, sugar, hydrogenated vegetable oil [cottonseed and/or rapeseed oil], salt), or in rice cereal: (rice, sugar, salt, high-fructose corn syrup, malt flavoring), etc.). And the fats and oils can be quite high too.

Quaker peanut butter chocolate chip “granola” bars?
GRANOLA (WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS, SUGAR, RICE FLOUR, WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED WHEAT, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN AND COTTONSEED OILS* WITH TBHQ AND CITRIC ACID ADDED TO PRESERVE FRESHNESS AND/OR SUNFLOWER OIL WITH NATURAL TOCOPHEROL ADDED TO PRESERVE FRESHNESS), WHOLE WHEAT FLOUR, MOLASSES, SODIUM BICARBONATE, SOY LECITHIN, CARAMEL COLOR, SALT, BARLEY MALT, NONFAT DRY MILK), CORN SYRUP, CRISP RICE (RICE FLOUR, SUGAR, BARLEY MALT, SALT), PEANUTBUTTER (PEANUTS, SUGAR, HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OIL[COTTONSEED AND/OR RAPESEED OIL], SALT), SEMISWEETCHOCOLATE CHIPS (SUGAR, CHOCOLATE LIQUOR, COCOA BUTTER, SOY LECITHIN, VANILLA EXTRACT), INVERT SUGAR, PEANUT FLAVORED CHIPS (SUGAR, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN AND COTTONSEED OIL*, PARTIALLY DEFATTED PEANUT FLOUR, LACTOSE, WHEY, DEXTROSE, CORN SYRUP SOLIDS, SOY LECITHIN, SALT, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR), CORN SYRUP SOLIDS, GLYCERIN. CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF CALCIUM CARBONATE, SORBITOL, SALT, WATER, NATURAL ANDARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, BHT (PRESERVATIVE), CITRIC ACID.

Horsefeathers. That’s candy.

[quote=“TheLostSwede”][quote=“Mucha Man”][quote=“TheLostSwede”]Most of the stuff in the import supermarkets isn’t much cheaper to be honest…

Considering most granola is oats, some kind of nuts, maybe raisins, something sweet and a bit of oil… yeah, it’s not cheap…[/quote]

At Jason’s the german stuff is NT290 for a kilo isn’t it?[/quote]

More like 400-500 grams, not a kilo mate, I think you’ve mixed up your measurements somewhere.

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No, it was per kilo. I used to buy the kilo bags so I wouldn’t have to shop as much, and I paid under NT300 though there were more expensive types but they usually had chocolate in them :unamused: . There is no way in hell I would have been paying NT1000 for a bag of breakfast cereal.

Well, there’s some awful crap for that kind of money, but if you want Alpen, then it’s NT$225 for 4-500g and it’s the only stuff I really like here. Costco has Quaker Granola in twin bag packs and it’s ok, but a bit sweet. They also have some “healthy” type own brand stuff that’s between cereal and musli that I tend to eat, as it’s at least affordable. Besides, why eat crap? I’d rather eat something I like that eat toasted cardboard for breakfast… :smiley:

I don’t ever eat crap. Well, perhaps my memory has failed me. :s

Mucha Man (um, I’m typing Mu-c-ha, but Forumosa seems intent on correcting it), you might be remembering the Australian Sunsol brand of granola/ muesli - at Jason’s, they had a couple of varieties that were extraordinarily good value compared to what else was on offer, with high fruit content. I’m not sure if they were a kilo, but they were definitely over 500g. Yellow plastic bags with a blue-red logo.

Unfortunately, in recent months they’ve either raised the price or stopped stocking the cheaper varieties. I’m not sure which.

There’s also been a recent deal with 2 for 1 for de Hahn (sp?), when it’s normally around 350NTD for one 600g packet. But that brand is really low on fruit.

Well, in all fairness, just read the content on the Costco stuff and it’s not really much better than any other kind of cereal. Well, at least the cranberry macadamia nut mix tastes ok :smiley:

Where to find granola bars? or any kind of protein bars for that matter?.
I thought Costco had some but I was just at their Neihu branch this morning and didn’t see any.
I might have missed it though. :slight_smile: