Happy Labor Day!

Congrats to Labor for a second term!

Australia seems to be following its Canadian and EU cousins in becoming more soft fascist. The Dingo ate my baby!!!

(2) Rob on X: “The EU is going authoritarian: locking up political opponents and citizens that speak out. They’re instituting vast online censorship. They’re importing millions of third world migrants that can be used as enforcers to keep the native population in line. https://t.co/FWmUsnDmwl” / X

Even funnier is that Dutton, the living vampire got Poilievred.

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You have political fault lines in many Western countries at the moment between/along globalist and nationalist lines. In Canada, the globalist party won re-election taking advantage of nationalist flag-waving nativism with the Toronto soccer moms too fucking dumb and swallowing the anti-Americanism/nationalist sentiment like a bukkake biscuit.

In Australia, the old well-to-do Sydney suburbs, the mainstay of Coalition, have gone Green or ALP. Strange re-alignments.

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I don’t see much of an issue.

I looked around IP and could not find a dedicated “Australian Politics” thread. So I’ll post this here.

Australia has followed Canada with a 2025 federal election in which the incumbant center left party defeated a Trump Light political right opposition party. In Canada the Conservative leader lost his seat! Ditto in Australia with opposition leader Peter Dutton.

History may not repeat but it is starting to rhyme. Much of the anglosphere is currently saying NO to the further spread of Trumpism.

Guy

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That’s a shame as the center right in those countries is a far cry from the fringe MAGA movement. If anything, they’re more like the Democrats in the US. Their left wing parties are waaaaaay more left than in the USA. But hey, if failed immigration policies, culture wars, and economic malaise floats your boat…

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I think it’s safe to say that the US is a very special case. Bernie Sanders in the US, for example, is viewed as a leftist radical; in almost any advanced industrial democracy he would be simply part of the center left calling for sensible things.

Back to the topic at hand: it seems quite clear in 2025 that perceived potential Trumpism (not the same as the actual DJT) is politically poisonous.

Guy

Bullshit. The Australian election had nothing to do with Trump.

In fact, the Labor Party adopted several policies typically associated with Trump himself, like abolishing birthright citizenship and deporting illegal immigrant criminals. If anything, Australia’s recent election demonstrated that voters there were focused entirely on local economic issues, healthcare, housing affordability, and social services, rather than American-style political battles.

Some of the biggest reasons were the 20% wipe of student debt, 100% federal funding for schools and the fully subsidized childcare etc… these were the reasons.

Heck… even I voted labour for these reasons.

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Yet UK took another direction and Farage Reformm party excelled

Lots of voters liked getting 20% off their tertiary education debt. Nothing like bribes for votes.

I voted for that. Why not.

Not a single friend or family member voted for labour because of Trump.

I just had another friend of mine (massive Trump lover) vote for labour because of the policy to remove HECS debts/repayments from mortgage calculations.

Absolutely correct, but those were local elections in the UK not national level like Canada and Australia.

Guy

We don’t vote on national elections to support or refute American politics. Trump had nothing to do with the election.

I wasn’t going to vote right wing to support Trump… Why? because the Coalition winning would make no difference in terms of Trump.

A clear warning sign in the UK for the next general election.

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It would be adorably naive to think it wasn’t at all a factor

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Again. Has nothing to do with it.

If Australians were voting against Trump, they would be voting for the Greens party which aligns more with the Democrats policies on open borders etc…

Thousands of refugees who had believed themselves to have finally found safety will be targeted by the new migration amendment (removal and other measures) bill. It expands the minister’s power and allows the government to put refugees back again in prison camps, deport them or banish them to a third country.

But it shows Americans and Canadians know nothing about Australian politics.

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From down in the polls to majority win, had to be a factor I’m sure.

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For sure there are a lot of moving pieces. But even Liberal party members (including one quoted in the piece linked above by @TT) acknowledge that Trumpism run wild did not help their party which was labelled—fairly or not—DOGE-y.

Guy

The Greens literally lost ground this election, Griffith and Brisbane flipped to Labor, and even Bandt himself barely held onto Melbourne. If voters were supposedly turning against “Trumpism,” why wouldn’t the Greens, the natural antithesis, benefit?

Liberal party (the “right wing party”) members will make up any excuse as to why they lost. However, the reality on the ground in Australia is pretty straightforward: people voted on practical local issues like housing, healthcare, and cost of living.

@justintaiwan do you concur?