Hassled by the Cops -- ARC Issue

Sorry you had to go through that semi-traumatic experience through no fault of your own. The police can really suck here sometimes… not as brutal as they are in the US, but just lacking in general empathy or awareness.

How did they track you though?

That’s my default setting. I assume that if you have nothing to hide it is most likely best to act accordingly in most scenarios.

Yeah, it’s certainly an option. The right to silence isn’t an imperative, it’s a choice like all rights. When you’re in an obviously routine situation, there’s a value to getting things over with. In other situations, I might insist on my right.

What a strange turn of events.

Sounds like it’s time to fire your boss.

It’s hard to pinpoint exactly what has happened but I would bet my bottom dollar your boss was the cause of the hassle in some way.

I presume your boss sponsors your ARC? The story would be even stranger if you have open work rights

If you’re planning to be in Taiwan for an extended period, apply for an APRC as soon as you are able to do so.

I’d also say that when cops (or any authority figures show up) I’d advise you to not just keep chatting with your friends. I’d be standing up, silent and polite in a situation like this—not because I’m guilty of any sh&t but because of basic cultural codes in East Asia. It occurred to me that it’s not impossible that you may have been a bit too casual looking at that moment for your own good . . .

Guy

I’m told if you are brought in for a criminal questioning (and this isn’t when the police are questioning you over ARC or whatever), then it’s right to exercise your right to silence. However I’m also told that your attitude towards LEO’s during this phase is actually important in terms of sentencing or whatever course of action the prosecutor may take (you know, indictment, summary judgment, or dismissal/conditional dismissal).

But if you just say nothing during your initial interaction, especially about your work rights, you are just giving officers more cause you detain you and further investigate you.

Whoopsie!

Seems like this was never about you; more like a sting to get the boss on an illegal school somewhere.

Maybe this was just a fake baiting tactic to see if you would flinch or get nervous and respond with something erroneous.

People in unfortunate circumstances might reply with all different types of responses to that comment or question.

Unless the law has changed then you just confessed to not working at the address on your ARC.No?

A good time to speak only English and profess no knowledge of Chinese

You said something and then the police passed the phone to the boss ??

Bad

They got you already if they want you
Just hope it’s not you they want

Doesn’t seem like it is

Money needs to be paid by the boss man

Da police is da mafia in Taiwan the white hand one to complement the black hand

The two hands work together

My take on the OP’s post is the police were called out for some random thing, and he just got caught up in the spot-check, it’s the time of year they go out fishing. I have seen a similar situation a while ago where the police have been called and they just take the ID of everyone there.

Yes this has saved me a lot of hassle, for example one evening I had just parked and a police officer asked if it was my scooter, I replied yes as it was my scooter. He then asked if I would mind finding another parking spot, there had been a complaint about the scooters parked there and a truck was coming to take them away. The police were actively going around trying to find the owners before the truck arrived.
anyone following @Marco 's advice would end up having to go pick their scooter up and pay the fine and for the lawyer.
There are time to keep stum and think about the implications of what your saying, but not always.

Not to the police it’s just not worth it for them to take a bung unless it’s life changing.
I ride with a few coppers and the anti graft measures here have them a little paranoid, even failure to report can result in expulsion and loss of government pension (remember government workers here can retire on full pension at 55, then start a new career while still receiving the pension).
They have a department you can report suspected graft too and they take it very seriously, they have paperwork and declarations for gifts.
(There are always people that think they know better or know an away around the system).

Not really, there is less corruption here than in the UK police with my personal experience with both.

Safe to assume he has a cell phone. :smirk:

That is not true

by who?

Whom.

Said no one ever…

I know quite a few problematic people who ended up at the police station, but I don’t know if they went down :wink:

Maybe I should have used could not would, but what is the likely outcome if they followed your advice and told the copper to contact their lawyer?

What people need to realize is when the cops start asking specific questions, you are already a suspect. Even if you didn’t do anything, you can talk yourself into trouble if you speak wrong. Or something can be twisted to meet a narrative. Best to remain quiet unless it’s a very routine question.

Encounter with Cops - Sounds like a more appropriate title.