- Go to NIA. Ask official date according to them, which is the only valid one/leaves out guesswork/and yes, mistakes can happen.
This is the first step before anything else.
- Probably but better ask NIA, who decides yes/no.
Naturalization is handled by Ministry of Interior through Household Registration office.
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Yep, not an immigrant anymore at that point haha
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Yes a lot of foreigners writing blogs on foreigners who vote in Taiwan, or foreigners with Taiwan passports and ID. Canāt quite get it through their thick skulls someone who naturalizes isnāt a foreigner anymore. Iād say not being born here Iām still an immigrant.
Just a naturalized immigrant.
Some people who come up my way have commented on just how I really am just another local in my village life. Absorbed into my local society, a true member of the borg.
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NIA would be the one keeping entry/exit records, which determine the number of days/time spent on this Island that count towards APRC or nationality or whether you pay full fare for taxes or not.
For any of those things what counts is what the Government thinks/says you have, not what you think you have.
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MOI can access your entry and exit records for your time spent in Taiwan. I was never required to submit entry and exit records for my naturalization nor when getting my ID card from HH. That is because MOI sends a registered letter to the HH Office where you get your ID and to you as the person now advised to go get your ID card.
Has nothing to do with NIA.
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At the end of the day, HHO and NIA r both agencies under the MOI.
Can an NWOHR get a čŗčč though? Otherwise how does an NWOHR without another passport enter the PRC?
Taiwanese can theoretically be refused entry and refused a čŗčč. They can get kicked out (deported) as well. There is no right of abode.
In theory yes, in reality, you will not get the same access to services like a āregularā PRC citizen (i.e. mainland Chinese).
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Oh wow, I didnāt know NWOHRs were eligible for a PRC travel document, or even considered PRC nationals in the first place.
Thanks for this.
Oh yes, do you happen to have a HK entry permit in the travel document? Or else how do you enter HK (or Macau for that matter)?
China claims that Taiwan is part of China so technically we are PRC nationals. For HK and Macau I am not sure as I only went there after I had my Taiwan HHR and ID card.
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Iām applying for this as a NWOHR at the moment.
In Australia, the Chinese consulates also need you to provide proof of permanent residency in Australia which is usually easy.
In my case itās hard because Iām the holder of an Australian ex-citizen visa which canāt be verified by VEVO, is not attached to a passport or travel
document, and the Chinese consulate probably havenāt come across it before. But is a permanent resident visa.
This led to follow up questions
āWhy did you renounce Australian citizenship?ā Which is irrelevant and none of their business.
It reminded me a lot of dealing with the Taiwanese government to be honest. Virtually identical.
Iām lucky that I deal with someone at work who has connections with the Chinese consulate so she is helping me knock some sense into them.
Never underestimate the power of éäæ
Iām still awaiting a response
Also for Hong Kong can you can use the travel document to apply for an entry permit but Iām not 100% sure of the process and Iām not sure about Macau
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@justintaiwan Wow good luck, when my daughter (who holds australian passport) was refused a chinese visa as her mother is chinese and not technically settled in Australia at time of birth. The chinese embassy in canberra requested a video call and checked out my daughter then quickly issued travel documentā¦ felt like they were verifying how much chinese/han she was. Side note china requires my daughter to enter on chinese travel document, yet hong kong allowed her to enter hong kong on aussie passport.
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They make up the rules as they go, just like Taiwan.
Iām sure if I looked Chinese then they would have just told me how to apply for the travel document without any fuss.
Iāve already threatened them with a complaint to the Taiwan Affairs Office
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LOVE THISSSSS. LETāS MAKE A FUSS WITH COMMIES TOO HSHHAAHHA
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I think theyāre asking in a round about way and without admitting it that they want proof I can return to Australia after a trip to China. But they wonāt admit that because that would be admitting that Iām not really a Chinese citizen.
My current Australian visa does not allow re-entry into Australia if I leave. I could apply for a reentry visa but thatās an extra $475 Iād have to fork out. Iād rather spend that money on my Australian passport when my resumption has been approved.
Think Iām gonna give up on this one, was mostly document collecting but I would actually like to visit China in the next year or so. Chinese visas are a pain in the assā¦ letās see if issue me a visa or a travel document when that time comes
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This is the way.
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