Compared to what? Almost all of China was poorer and more underdeveloped than TW, that had seen Japanese investments, if not industrialisation on par with Korea (also under Jp control) in infrastructure and development.
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Totally agree with your assessment of the situation with two variances
I think China wonât be going anywhere unless it does something to really rile up the population and I think it would take a lot.
And second, I think after seeing what happened to Russia, they wonât want to make the same mistake UNLESS after a few months the world goes back to business as usual with Russia. If there was no real consequence China might feel emboldened. If the world keeps slamming Russia with sanctions it would send a strong message to others
Only when China changes itâs political system . This would be a reasonable compromise I also support .
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The Treaty of Paris ending the Spanish-American War was signed on December 10, 1898. In it, Spain renounced all claim to Cuba, ceded Guam and Puerto Rico to the United States and transferred sovereignty over the Philippines to the United States for $20 million.
Philippine insurgents who had fought against Spanish rule soon turned their guns against their new occupiers. The Philippine-American War began in February of 1899 and lasted until 1902. Ten times more U.S. troops died suppressing revolts in the Philippines than in defeating Spain.
The MexicanâAmerican War was an embarrassment for Mexico and a goldmine for the United States, literally. Within days, the important port of Veracruz was blockaded by the U.S. navy. The U.S. army fought their way overland into Mexico from California, Texas, and eventually from Veracruz straight to the capitol. Mexicoâs Santa Anna, back in power again, sent a peace treaty to Washington in early 1847, but his terms were not approved. Later on that year, with U.S. troops just outside Mexico City, peace talks occurred. When Mexico would not admit defeat and offer up territory, American troops invaded the capital city and quickly took control. Santa Anna resigned as president and fled central Mexico in defeat. The United States now occupied the Mexican capital, thus the U.S. occupied Mexico, now what could it take?
It was a long negotiation process that ultimately led to the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo on February 2, 1848. President Polk sent âPeace Ambassadorâ Nicholas Trist to central Mexico in order to set the terms of the Treaty. On a note of interest, Trist was recalled by Polk but disobeyed orders to go back to Washington; he was the only American to sign the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo. If Trist would have left for Washington like he was ordered to do, the treaty would probably never have happened. With this Treaty, the American Southwest as we know it today officially came under U.S. control and Mexico lost half of its country. The treaty established the Texas-Mexican border along the Rio Grande; fifteen years later it would be the same river that led to the Chamizal dispute between Mexico and the United States. It was agreed that a group of surveyors from each country, working together, would set out to map the new 2,000-mile long border.
Do some independent reading on Taiwanâs economic history. What youâll find (especially concerning our status in the 1930s) may surprise you.
Guy
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You donât agree that China wants the USA out of Asia ?
You do understand what âdonât disagreeâ means right?
Guy
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Ha clearly misread it.
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The soldiers who came over were amazed at seeing things like escalators which they had never seen before. And they started robbing everything and shipping it back to China.
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The west: China is looking at the sanctions in Russia and shaking in their boots. Because their economy relies so heavily on exports of consumer goods, they would never survive sanctions after the taiwanese invasion because it would drive thier people into poverty and despair.
China: Yes, my little ignorant minions. keep feeding from our spoons of narratives. We certainly have never in the past driven our people further into poverty and despair. We certainly havent murdered tens of millions so Mau could have some fun gardening and eating in this lifetime. We definitely didnt invade and commt enocide in taiwan while the west beat their drums and did dick all. No way, we definitely care about every single life within our borders, eapecially those we sterilized harvested for parts or aborted. We just think an honest hard days work is good for the people 
What the west, and the world, seems to be failing to realise is that china is setup, and always has been setup, to oppress its people and stamp out any forms of uprising fast and violently. As such they have you far more efficient machine of not worrying. this is why harsh sanctions on china are more dangerous to the west than to china. The Ccp has no moral issues with murdering its people in order to get them to shut up. The west does. The western countries would oust thier leaders within 6 months of mass inflation and no more new EVERYTHING far sooner than china will have another civil war. imagine norh ameicans without walmarts, most shelves empty etc etc. I can picture ccp guns shootin their own FAR sooner than i can see canadians without creature comforts long term. Anyone that says covid has shown them what its like without convenience can just go play with a red ball outside, those people are simply just semi useful retards that would melt without their phone and social media.
I am unsure if this is ignorance or arrogance on the westsâ side, but certainly people are assuming a LOT and not realizing that the CCP works more similar to an ant colony than a civilized modern society that aims at equality and peace. And i dont understand why! CCP has bent over backwards literally showing AND telling how fuckin horrible they are an that we owe them for it. Truly astonishing!
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the stories of elderly Taiwanese ive heard (be them waisheng ren or bendi ren) all tell of extreme poverty. perhaps Taipei had a few fancy buildings, but i think this was still the boonies for both China and the JP empire.
perhaps im wrong.
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Yes, taiwan went from head hunting jungle tribes, to oppressed shit hole dictatorship under japanese rule to shithole dictatorship under âchineseâ rule to a booming democracy with freedom and high levels of infrastucture and importance. All within 100 years.
Fuck people who say taiwan was shit so its not worth protecting because we dont (cantâŚ) declare independance. Thats horse shit. Today is today. The fact that taiwan went from a terrible place to a wonderful place leagues ahead of many others in a short timeframe is EXACTLY why the world should be lining up to protect it. And taiwan did it being the ONLY one to stand up to the worlds greatest oppressor nation while they attacked us and treatened us with more attacks while the world literally walked away whistling, fingers in ears.
Nations that claim human rights and freedoms should be truly ashamed if the dont already support taiwan. Like, absolutely embarrased and filled with guilt. They will agree in 20 to 30 years when current day individuals will no longer hold any responsibility. For the life of me cant see why they dont see it nowâŚ
#everychildmatters (except the ones that made the phone youre reading this on)
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Actually Taiwanâs had many towns and cities that were fairly well developed back in the 40s.
Yes there was a lot of poverty too but it wasnât undeveloped.
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Just a general quoting of sources indirectly touching upon development and lack of development. Most of these are more or less reposts on my part (not trying to dispute with anyone, and I know that a lot of you are aware of these things):
ââForeign News: This Is the Shame,â TIME, June 10, 1946
âfrom Allen J. Shackleton (United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration), Formosa Calling
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Remember gentlemen the south developed before the north.
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I agree regarding the CCPs ability to suppress the nation. I watched the documentary One Child Nation , if they can get away with the things done then they can get away with almost anything
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yes, youâre mostly correct here. However, I wouldnât say control of Taiwan would give them control of the Pacific, thatâs quite a stretch. But it would provide unrestricted access to the Pacific and punch a really big hole in the âfirst island chain.â
the semiconductor industry isnât something that they can just take over. Thatâs human capital in there, that is, it takes knowledge to make that happen and the people involved would have to likely be voluntary to make it work, which is extremely unlikely.
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I think many super wealthy Taiwanese families were wealthy already in that time. Their wealth can be 100 years old or even more. President Tsai family for an example. Taiwan was colonized by Japan, which was on the front line of industrialization. Common people yes, were poor, but Taiwan always had vibrant high class already back in the old days of 20 century.
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If the US canât defend Taiwan, then the chain is over and from what I read , the other bases are not defensible. At that point the US would likely leave Okinawa and the other bases voluntarily