I think Taiwan is part of the USA

Don’t you agree?

No, but it is a novel idea.

I am sure there are a few of self-hating natives and addled expatriats who would agree with you.

I think the USA is part of Taiwan. I’m ready to declare Orange County, Los Angeles an independent state when you are. HAHAHA

Those who don’t have not read the treaties ending world war II.

But as easterners, they are conditioned into accepting rule of monkey, rather than rule of law.

Their opinions don’t count, as they don’t have a clue about what they are talking about.

Whether you agree with it or not, the fact remains that October 25, 1945, was not “Taiwan Retrocession Day” in any way, shape, or form. There was no transfer of sovereignty on that date.

And the proof of this is easy to see . . . . . . because if you examine the entire history of what has happened to the Republic of China government on Taiwan since 1945 to the present . . . . . . everything fits together perfectly if you don’t attach any special significance to that date, over and above the fact that it marks the beginning of the belligerent occupation of Formosa and the Pescadores.

Next question: Could anyone make arrangements for the transfer of the “title” of something to someone else if they are not holding that title? Answer: Obviously not. If you have the title, then you have the final say in making arrangements for the transfer of that title.

Hence, the correct reading of the Shanghai Communique of 1972 is that the United States is making arrangements to transfer the title of Formosa and the Pescadores to the PRC. What is that transfer based upon? It is based on the outcome of successful negotiations between the Chinese on both sides of the Taiwan Strait. That is clearly stated in the Shanghai Communique.

Next question: How is it that the USA is holding the sovereignty of Taiwan? Answer: That is in the San Francisco Peace Treaty . . . . . . WHEREBY, although Japan renounced right, claim, and title to Formosa and the Pescadores, and these areas were not ceded to any other country . . . . . . but you have to consider, under the laws of war, who has final disposition rights of this (formerly Japanese held) property? According to Article 4b, it is the United States Military Government. In Article 23, we also see that the United States is the principal occupying power.

Gen. MacArthur directed the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek to come to Taiwan and accept the surrender of Japanese troops. Gen MacArthur is the Head of the United States Military Government – the “principal occupying power” of Japan and her former dependencies. The CKS representatives have very limited authority to act as caretakers of these areas. Who holds the power as regards final disposition? The USA.

Sovereignty Analysis: Taiwan currently has a government, defined territory, permanent population, and some capacity to enter into relations with other “states” . . . . . . hence under international law, it appears to be a soverign nation, or something very close . . . . . . but since the world community (and especially the USA) denies that Taiwan is currently a sovereign nation, then clearly the “sovereignty” of Taiwan cannot have disappeared. Similar to the situation in Iraq before June 30, 2004, someone is holding the sovereignty in trust . . . . . .

And all the international evidence, both legal and historical, shows that the United States is holding the sovereignty of Taiwan at the present time. This makes Taiwan “foreign territory” under the dominion of the United States, and means that Taiwan qualifies as the sixth major insular area after Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, and the Northern Mariana Islands. Taiwan is unincorporated US territory. The US flag should be flying . . . . . . as of when, you ask? Well, I would say that the correct procedure is that the flag of the “principal occupying power” is raised over occupied territory, so that would mean that on October 25, 1945, the US flag should have been raised . . . . . . . but DEFINITELY AS OF April 28, 1952, the US flag should be flying . . . . . . .

Technically speaking, Taiwan became an independent customs territory as of October 25, 1945, under the law of occupation, then in the post WWII peace treaty it was effectively ceded to the United States Military Government (the “principal occupying power”) as interim status . . . . . . and so as “unincorporated territory under USMG” based on the principle of cession by conquest it is not actually part of the USA, but it will appear that way to people in other countries. The island citizens of the Taiwan cession are considered “TRA aliens” under the Immigration and Nationality Act and Taiwan Relations Act, and qualify for a “Taiwan cession” passport issued under US administrative authority.

Those who don’t have not read the treaties ending world war II.

But as easterners, they are conditioned into accepting rule of monkey, rather than rule of law.

Their opinions don’t count, as they don’t have a clue about what they are talking about.[/quote]

Addled expatriat number 1.

Oh, and the sanctimonious patronizing of Europeans, that always wins over points with everybody. I thought crypto-racial justifications for western imperialism went out with Rudyard Kipling, but apparently bringing “civilization” to the darkies is still in fashion.

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Addled expatriat number 1.

Oh, and the sanctimonious patronizing of Europeans, that always wins over points with everybody. I thought crypto-racial justifications for western imperialism went out with Rudyard Kipling, but apparently bringing “civilization” to the darkies is still in fashion.[/quote]

As usually speaking up without even boning up before shooting at anything moving.

If that’s the best you can do, then go and read the San Fransisco peace treaty, and shut up until you understand it.

Please, your little twat. Moreover, take your racist shite and stuff it somewhere else. Thanks.