However, some do care about reciprocity regarding certain things related to their citizens living in the country. One example is on tax on working holiday visa holders in Australia. Some countries complained regarding the reciprocity and got the unfair additional tax removed.
Taiwan welcomes people to naturalize. Taiwan has better human rights for people now than in the past not from outside pressue but from within Taiwan. I am not sure what you mean by “our country” The one you choose to be a citizen of or the one you live in.
No one does. However, Taiwan has a huge ego and even when countries drop drivers license agreements it is seen as a big deal here. Even just the talk that foreigners were writing public petitions to their home countries (however useless) would stir debate.
True. People do. I’d love to see what the MOI says after harping on about “reciprocity” over many things.
Things are never just black and white here. Too many clauses and sub clauses, too much small print. It’s little wonder that most of us give up complaining and just accept our lot. There must be a hard core of people behind the scenes pulling the strings determined not to budge an inch on any additional concessions for us foreigners. I refuse to call myself an alien as I am from this planet
We are asking for dual nationality because after almost 25 years it has become clear that we will never fix all the problems with APRCs. Trying to fix those problems is a game of whack-a-mole. The government (inadvertently I believe) keeps creating new problems much faster than we can fix the old ones.
I thought down under they all end up at an ‘off-shore processing center’ in that sun kissed island called Nauru? Similar to what the UK unsuccessfully attempted with Rwanda
Dang 25 years since APRC’s and JFRV’s came into force. Glad I did not wait around for that. 27 years a citizen. Woe is me.
Some people just dont know which they should go. They have a never ending dream. MOI officials have another dream in that Taiwan never needed you or me. Also the this is unfair aurgument rings hollow. How about your home government recognizes the ROC first. That might be fair but it’s not going to happen. We will post each others diplomats and government officials to each others countries and give them the same diplomatic immunities and pretend there are no official relations lol.
Anyway people choose to become a citizen or they choose not to become a citizen. I could have chosen to wait for an APRC. I chose not to get one.
Not all. Those that try to come by boat are given food and water and fuel and pushed back in the direction they came from. Better they never make land at all. Maybe some EU and the UK could do the same.
The APRC has served me well for more than two decades. In a few years, I will have some practical reasons for wanting/needing citizenship. I will do what’s necessary then including renouncing. The only thing that is stopping me now is a sentimental attachment to my native land where I was born and educated.
Isn’t that the point? We, people of Taiwan, need to push for our rights. You seem to keep not understanding this very crucial point!
Unless perhaps you are mentioning most of the financial rights success are done by foreigners (mainly, chinese), then I guess I am interested in hearing your opinions as this is a reality. It only enforces the point that we need to push for our country to improve. Has little to do with Canada, USA, Australia etc. The only reason those places are mentioned is because various sects of Taiwan government likes to cherry pick where they say they are eecirprocle, to make a nice marketing campaign. Perhaps that point you also missed when I mentioned it. Other than that, who cares? Let’s make our country better, I’m not invested in Australia or the US. Much like you aren’t in Canada. But we are invested in taiwan, so that’s the point.
I’m not sure if you’re trying to be sarcastic or just literally doing this. But people of Taiwan have always fought for better justice. It’s not a woe is me, it’s not an issue with another country. It’s Taiwan government is being broadly hypocritical and they are doing the woe campaign. Which is really cringey and people want to stand up against thus and improve human rights. Your constant pissing contest only makes sense because others before you also fought. It’s really unclear to me as you say you support it and then always shit on people trying to do the leg work to accomplish it.
I have to say, outside your narcissism and ego, it really is hard to follow what you want. Perhaps just being a shit disturber? Shit on people that aren’t as “native” as you? It comes across as gross. But again, I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt as misunderstandings are normal in text.
Do you want reciprocal treatment for becoming taiwanese? Or do you want everyone to renounce?
Do you think every should go through the same hoops as you or do you want a more efficient path?
Do you just want to tell everyone you were present here for more days, or do you want to welcome people that have also done loads to help our country?
It’s all very weird, you say A, then shit on A.
I think we should really support people trying to make a change (most are Taiwanese by the way…), rather than make excuses because other country this or that. That’s straight bullshit.
Nobody really. Couldn’t even get enough foreigners to care on the recent petition. You keep pushing for your rights as a foreigner and I’ll keep pushing for changes as a citizen.