If you could easily reacquire your citizenship, would you become a Taiwanese?

I would imagine it would be a 6 month visitor visa that is extended for another 6 months within Taiwan. Then after that would need to leave, reapply and come back rather than continously extendable within Taiwan. The extendable upto 1 year is possible due to holding a Gold Card before applying for naturalization. @Fuzzy_Barbecue could clear up the details on that.

Are these really the same thing though?

I guess if the air quotes are there…

Your imagination is wrong. He already wrote his parents are granted one year parent visa not 6 months. Maybe read what he has written.

Then clearly you have other reservations likely related to uncertainty due to misinformation. Or just can’t be bothered with paperwork.

If you were to live here over the long term there is no reason not to. (Other than the above)

Doesn’t matter. Some people will never apply even if renunciation is not required. As he said, the choice was made not to naturalize. People have their reasons to not apply even if they can. That’s up to them.

Same here. For people who want it, great and I support their cause, but I’m not too interested.

I don’t really see that feeling changing in the short to medium term, even if the renunciation requirement were to be eventually removed. I definitely wouldn’t renounce UK citizenship though, despite not having lived there for 15 years and not being very patriotic.

Quite patronizing. People don’t need to be uncertain or misinformed to come to a different decision as to what they want than you did.

Sure there is, even if that wouldn’t be a reason for you.

Everyone I’ve spoken to has said one of the following “I don’t fee Taiwanese” (the foreigners who have only been here a short time. Not enough to even apply or can recently apply)

Or “because of (insert misinformation here)”

Nope, I simply choose not to.

Have lived here over 20 years now, lot’s of reasons why I’ve chosen not to. Each to his own.

Personally I consider them to be very different but off topic here!

But don’t you wish you could keep telling everyone about it
:joy:

It does seem to be a high priority for those who have!

And just think if you did, you also could be associated with that group of people.

Then proceeds to say…

Don’t need to justify. But I am sure one could easily diffuse many of those reasons.

This man said the same. Then his wife suffered the consequences when he became ill. Could’ve easily renounced and resumed and if you’re living long term… then it is something you should do. (FYI they only gave foreigners certain benefits. Some are still not available)

@comfy really is just excited it can be done so easily if one wants to. Costs a lot more for US and UK citizens though.

He want’s people to enjoy what he has. Me… if you want go for it. It not that’s fine. No one should be pressured to naturalize. Many people like @comfy’s foreigner mother live in Australia and never naturalize, which means in their old age they get less benefits than citizens. Such is life.

Same here. I don’t “feel Taiwanese” for whatever reason, and I think that’s a good enough reason not to naturalize.

That being the case, if I did eventually naturalize, I would be doing it for selfish reasons (to make certain things easier), not because I “feel Taiwanese” or want to be Taiwanese. And it’s probably better for countries not to give citizenship to people doing it purely for selfish reasons.

I think it’s fine for people to choose to live here long term as a foreign citizen (though certain things should also be made easier).

I’m also a bit worried about becoming one of those people that after naturalizing never shuts up about it. Did you guys need to take an oath to spread the word or something?

Yep exactly. My uncle refused to naturalise and went back to New Zealand.

He was spewing when he found out Australians get subsidized prostitutes when on disability benefits… (He is disabled and cannot walk. Australia’s NDIS pays for prostitutes for people in the same position as him. New Zealand only pays for people to shower him) Because he’s not a citizen he cannot get the free prostitutes that he would’ve gotten.

I did it for selfish reasons.

This one looks inappropriate in air quotes!

If it were easy to be a dual citizen, would it be harder to tell?

I got that impression previously tbh, but didn’t want to accuse you of it. :man_shrugging:

No. I’m just an honest person. One would 99.99% be lying or FOS if they told you otherwise.

I’m sure you couldn’t as I’ve no interest in it hence have chosen not to.

I could actually apply as a high level professional and not even need to renounce, but it’s not something that interests me.