Is a birthday gift necessary in a relationship?

Well,I think Taiwanese are accustomed to giving the birthday gift or birthday greetings.
Especially for someone we care and love.[/quote]

Not in my wife’s family. She tells me in her family they didn’t celebrate birthdays when they were kids and still don’t usually wish happy birthday to each other. But I don’t know how typical, or atypical, that is in Taiwan.

Well,I think Taiwanese are accustomed to giving the birthday gift or birthday greetings.
Especially for someone we care and love.[/quote]

Not in my wife’s family. She tells me in her family they didn’t celebrate birthdays when they were kids and still don’t usually wish happy birthday to each other. But I don’t know how typical, or atypical, that is in Taiwan.[/quote]
Same with mine. Maybe wisher is younger and has a family more influenced by Western tradition. 50th and 80th are big ones that merit a celebration in Taiwan, though.

Well,my neighbour and my aunti’s husband they are from mainland in 1949 with the troops.
They think birthday highly .They celebrate birthday for their family .
But older Taiwanese who were educated in Japanese system dont celebrate birthday.

[quote=“wisher”]Well,my neighbour and my aunti’s husband they are from mainland in 1949 with the troops.
They think birthday highly .They celebrate birthday for their family .
But older Taiwanese who were educated in Japanese system dont celebrate birthday.[/quote]
That includes my wife’s parents then – they’re both in their 80s. My wife’s not that old, though! Thinking of it now, though, she DOES sometimes do that thing with the terrible sawdust and grouting “cake” they sell here.

I stand by my statement that I will marry the first woman who buys me a model helicopter. I’m not sure how I would handle helicopters from more than one woman yet.

[quote=“Stimpy”]I’d say yes in most cases. I believe in being fair and communicating, though. If the girl whose b-day was missed was totally silent and gave no clues that her day was coming, or any indication of what she’d like as a gift, then she is partly to blame for the day not being remembered. Females, from my male point of view, often look for signs their men love them, but are often deliberately mum with the vital information and clues that would help their mates show their love. The men are often stuck trying to read minds.

Boyfriends should remember b-days (and girlfriends should too), but that the dates are important-- and that they are coming-- should not be a mystery.[/quote]

I wonder about this. Are the ladies who suffer from this afflication truly so desperate and pathetic that their barometer for love is whether he remembers her birthday? I’m sure there are some women this clueless and stupid, but I very seriously doubt they’re the norm. I think for the most part it is just a way for nags to find something to nag about. She deliberately sets the trap by never mentioning her birthday, at least not in the few or several weeks leading up to the day. Now what is she thinking day after day? He mentions his friends want to go out some time that week. She broods. But is she really thinking, “I just don’t know if he genuinely loves me. If he remembers, he loves me. If not, he doesn’t”? I think more likely she is hoping that he will forget, that way she can put on a drama show, nag, tell all her friends about, etc.

I agree with you that if a man or woman believes birthdays to be important, he or she should remind the SO about it from time to time. In other words, what is important is celebrating the birthday, not whether the man (or woman I guess, but men don’t usually play this game) can remember it. Any ladies laid out this little trap who care to admit it?

No you’re not. You’re a godless, unbelieving, infidel apostate atheist just like me. Unless of course you’ve reconverted, in which case you can FORGET about being invited to the secret conference we’re holding with the homosexuals to plot the destruction of “family values”. Pffft! :raspberry:

I meant culturally. You are correct about my religious views.
You don’t need to send me an invite, by the way. I’m one of the organizers.

This year’s birthday gift was oraganized and planned for two months in advance-it was like the Normandy invasion of internet shopping using middlemen and midnight postal runs and secret codes.

I got Her this:

Titanium the gift that keeps on giving-and will survive a nuclear holocaust. Big bling without the weight and the chord can be used as a garrotte to make mob hits with.

Next year’s gift will be a week’s vacation in Bali with 6 days of spa time. This year I got carbon fittings on my 954cc and an aftermarket rear suspension kit–really romantic.

Wow. Did you have to drop hints, or can she read your mind?

It goes for other anniversaries, too. This morning my wife reminded me that it’s out 10th wedding anniversary. She wasn’t too angry that I’d forgotten – it was a full three days since the subject had come up, after all.
What really got on her tits is that when she asked me what I whispered in her ear at our wedding reception, I immediately responded, because I certainly had not forgotten: “I have to go. Patrick has his bare testicles pressed against the window of the next-door coffee shop again.”
Wrong answer, apparently. Well, she should have given me some context.

Nothing is necessary, whatever makes you guys happy is the only necessary, but I would think it’s a reasonable nice gesture. Also, wouldn’t you just want to give something nice to your gf/bf, hb/wf when it’s that special time of the year.