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I suppose as a member of the Emperor’s inner circle, you speak only the most refined 官話 of Latin. :face_with_monocle: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Yeah, his only Latin appears to be the words for ā€œbigā€ and ā€œdickā€, and I suspect at least one of those is wrong. Very immature. Someone wasn’t paying attention in school. :whistle:

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Eh? Do you find something … wisible about the name Biggus

Dickus?

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After visiting Italy a second time last month, and also far Southern Spain I saw and ate little what is the same in Taiwan other than some (not all) Seafood dishes. What you eat or seafood in Italy and Spain that is like Taiwan, as your tourist in Taiwan and Italy interested to see what you saw as the same? I see more in common things in Japan with Italy than Italy with Taiwan?

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nice country, Nice city (even with the rain went out), and nice happy hours


nearby Happy hour

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Next time both in town I’ll bring u to nice aperitivos, proper ones

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Thanks! Will tell you in advance next time

The one item of amazement to my Taiwanese new staff, besides the aperitivos, was the time people go out and talk. (and meal times) In Taiwan not so much of this, she mentioned many go home to be online. Japan has this after work time (Japanese work quite a bit less than Taiwanese now days)

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ē±³č˜­äø­å¤®č»Šē«™ Milano Centrale = nothing like it in Taiwan, Taipei Main maybe more shopping, in Milano lot of tracks/trains. (to be fair Taipei has one main line passing)

和平之門Arco della Pace = ha, maybe BeiMen

Though Taiwan has good bakeries, still between Taiwan and Italy not the same. Decent price NT$200 (was 6.30, shop boss rounded off to 6 and did not take the 30 cents ha)

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It was actually one of the most boring cities I’ve ever visited in Europe (along with Brussels and a bunch of German cities like Nuremberg and Cologne …). It’s not particularly beautiful and there’s like nothing famous to see (ok fine there were like 3 things … the Duomo, that mall next to the Duomo, and the Last Supper, the last of which was the lamest tour of all time). Venice, Florence, Turin, Rome etc. are all a thousand times better.

Milan is also the most polluted major city in Western Europe. It’s a lot more polluted than Kaohsiung which is the most polluted city in Taiwan.

I took this in October 2015, on top of the Duomo.

If I hadn’t taken this picture myself I would’ve assumed it was some random depressing town in E. Europe.

Italy is fab and Italians are hot, but I did not enjoy Milan. #sorrynotsorry

I actually thought Italy was extremely expensive when I visited in 2015 and 2016. It felt more expensive than neighbouring Austria where wages are twice as high.

Maybe coffee is particularly cheap, but I don’t drink coffee so I wouldn’t know. And I visited the tourist hotspots like Venice, Rome, Milan, Verona, and Florence so maybe I was scammed.

Still I thought Italy was magical. The only place I didn’t like was Milan.

Palermo is a bit of a dive. Passable architecture, difficult locals.

Went there with my sister and there was… I forget the name… touts, solicitors? People hassling you on the street to visit their restaurant or event or whatever, but they were particularly persistent, chasing us down the street and grabbing my sisters arm.

Beautiful countryside in the hills of Sicily, but yeah, kind of hostile place. Driving is fucking awful, everyone thinks they are Fangio in their 1980s Fiat Panda.

I did a road trip from Milan taking in the lakes in the north of the country, that was nice, apart from driving the rental car into a cliff, the car being inaccessible one evening due to a small market being set up around it with a marquee and a guy selling knives blocking it in, then I lost the car because I parked it in a public car park, and being a white Fiat 500, the car park then filled up with loads of other white Fiat 500s, so it took a while to locate. Also a dog ran out in front of me whilst driving, and I received the obligatory horn and shouting from the car behind for stopping to avoid killing the poor mutt, and then I got the car stuck on a level crossing for the high speed Milan to Rome line when the barriers came down.

Venice stunk like my unwashed balls.

I’d like to visit Florence for a weekend, perhaps, otherwise I’m content I’ve ticked the Italy box.

I was very lucky with the weather when I visited Venice.

It looked like this the whole time.

I have never been to southern Italy but i’ve always wanted to. Though I’ve heard really bad things about crime and filth and catcalls etc.

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Looks good. I also had good weather, but when the sea is warm it absolutely stinks. There’s a sewer system only in name in Venice, it’s straight from the shitter into the canals.

I get less and less tolerant surrounding older buildings, especially low-ceilings, small doorways, tight stairways, crap water systems, poor internal heating and crumbling walls so I’m more of a modern architecture kind of person, therefore, yeah, Italian cities… nah.

Formosa Boulevard station in K is preferable to the Sistine Chapel :rofl:

Well, usual comment of ppl not from Milan. It’s a city to discover, we r discrete.

I went in autumn so it wasn’t hot and didn’t smell like piss. Some locals there were quite rude though.

Well Sistine Chapel has very high ceilings.

Ok, but the air pollution is still overkill.

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I worked down south in Lecce for a couple of months. Personally found the countryside amazing with all the olive trees and the towns/cities (like Otranto) that I visited were beautiful. Only downside was the driving, especially the bizarre junctions on the motorways where the joining sliproad is before the departing sliproad.

In Bologna , interesting to see at the Uni (the oldest in the world) history of mechanical and technological area. BTW, joint showing with a Japanes Uni, visited today.



Going up to Milano , any suggestions?

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Enjoy Bologna, a city which we call ā€œthe fatā€ since the food is just amazing.

In Milano for aperitivo depends on your budget. Let’s just say below 10€ per drink (but comes with food) is not good…

What I would recommend instead is having a good drink before dinner and then just going to dinner to have your fix.

I like MAG on the naviglio grande

Or super central in front of duomo Camparino in Galleria (prices r ok for the location, but the drinks r very good, just have the drink standing at the counter, old style)

If u feel real fancy and want to spend the big buck, go to my friend at langosteria in the galleria del corso, a bald guy with glasses is the bar manager (Matteo, like me haha):

You can start with this. Good drinks and langosteria has amazing food too, but we’ll, u will feel very light with Ur wallet afterwards…

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Thanks! Bologna is interesting and different city.

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Just too many commies there…

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