It's On! Taipower Increased Rates by 11.5% in 2012

Just in time for Ma’s 2nd inauguration.

Article in Chinese: http://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E9%9B%BB%E5%83%B9%E6%BC%B2%E5%AE%9A%E4%BA%86-520%E5%89%8D%E6%BC%B211.5-184800111.html

I’m totally impressed with Taipei Times’ speed (or lack thereof) in reporting this.

[quote=“PigBloodCake”]Just in time for Ma’s 2nd inauguration.

Article in Chinese: http://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E9%9B%BB%E5%83%B9%E6%BC%B2%E5%AE%9A%E4%BA%86-520%E5%89%8D%E6%BC%B211.5-184800111.html

I’m totally impressed with Taipei Times’ speed (or lack thereof) in reporting this.[/quote]
Chinapost had it: chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national … -rates.htm

Lovely, just in time for summer. :s

Holy CRAP! NT$89 per month! :astonished: :astonished: :astonished: Oh NOES!

Says the man who does not need an AC! I leave the thing on for my pets all day, I’ll be struck with 500 to 1000 nts more, I bet. That’s some tuna cans there! :laughing:

That’s what I thought. Electricity is sold below cost in Taiwan as it is - the gov’t apparently has to bail out Taipower each and every year with a couple of billion slipped under the table. That comes from taxes - however cheap it appears on your bill, you still pay the going rate one way or another.

It’s about time prices rose. Even with an 11% hike it’s STILL not being sold at fair value. Yes, people need to use the aircon for 3-4 months when it’s hot, but neither people nor pets need to have the temperature set much below 25’C, at least at home where you don’t need to, um, keep up appearances. My annual electricity bill is about NT$6000-7000, and that’s with a SOHO full of electrical equipment running all day. Ridiculously cheap compared to Europe/UK.

Building companies might finally start designing more energy-efficient buildings if people no longer assume that aircon is virtually free.

That’s what I thought. Electricity is sold below cost in Taiwan as it is - the gov’t apparently has to bail out Taipower each and every year with a couple of billion slipped under the table. That comes from taxes - however cheap it appears on your bill, you still pay the going rate one way or another.

It’s about time prices rose. Even with an 11% hike it’s STILL not being sold at fair value. Yes, people need to use the aircon for 3-4 months when it’s hot, but neither people nor pets need to have the temperature set much below 25’C, at least at home where you don’t need to, um, keep up appearances. My annual electricity bill is about NT$6000-7000, and that’s with a SOHO full of electrical equipment running all day. Ridiculously cheap compared to Europe/UK.

Building companies might finally start designing more energy-efficient buildings if people no longer assume that aircon is virtually free.[/quote]
Maybe now we won’t have three TVs on the whole day.
People will take shorter showers.
Maybe also turn of the lights if you’re not in the room.
Uhm, save money elsewhere by maybe taking the bus instead of driving everywhere. Walk to seven for those Taiwan Beers instead of taking the scooter to ride three blocks.
How the nightmare begins.

Shorter showers? Don’t use electricity for that … just gas … and no gas in summer.


it makes too much sense!
it’s not a Taiwan only point, not in the slightest. All electricity companies the world over are subsidised. Not to mention food and imported goods!

And labor is also below cost in Taiwan as it is :frowning:

Ok, I just got my Taipower bill…1107 kWh for 62 days.

With the new rate, I’ll be paying an extra 332 NT for 2 months.

Better check your bill to see how much kWh you’re using for 2 months and multiply that by 0.3 NT.

Some households do have electric water heater (and don’t forget my heat pump water heater :smiley: ).

True enough - but in Taiwan, the favoured target just happens to be energy, because uneducated politicians (and their voters) imagine this helps economic performance, so it’s subsidised even more lavishly than usual.

:astonished: Are you running an aluminium smelter in your spare bedroom?

You jest, but the two things might be related. Government subsidy is like squashing a balloon - you might be able to make a dent in one place, but there’s sure to be a corresponding bulge somewhere else. Or vice versa.

If energy gets more expensive, companies will be forced to make better use of it, which might mean becoming more innovative. Ultimately, employees will have to drive that process. Salaries will experience upward pressure both from improved performance and from the higher cost of living (it’s not really higher - it’s just more visible). Obviously that’s not going to happen overnight, but with one less perverse incentive to underperform, there could be some positive benefits.

That’s about 553 kWh per month. That’s a bit higher than my avg but then I had to turn on the dehumidifiers quite often during those 62 days.

I wouldn’t consider it high though.

[quote=“finley”]
If energy gets more expensive, companies will be forced to make better use of it, which might mean becoming more innovative. Ultimately, employees will have to drive that process. Salaries will experience upward pressure both from improved performance and from the higher cost of living (it’s not really higher - it’s just more visible). Obviously that’s not going to happen overnight, but with one less perverse incentive to underperform, there could be some positive benefits.[/quote]

We’ll see…but then we’re talking about Taiwan here :ponder: :ponder:

[quote=“PigBloodCake”][quote=“finley”]

:astonished: Are you running an aluminium smelter in your spare bedroom?
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That’s about 553 kWh per month. That’s a bit higher than my avg but then I had to turn on the dehumidifiers quite often during those 62 days.

I wouldn’t consider it high though.[/quote]

1-MW solar power plant to light up 1,000 city homes … you use as much as 1,000 homes?

[quote=“PigBloodCake”]Ok, I just got my Taipower bill…1107 kWh for 62 days.

With the new rate, I’ll be paying an extra 332 NT for 2 months.

Better check your bill to see how much kWh you’re using for 2 months and multiply that by 0.3 NT.[/quote]

What are you running at home? A server farm? It takes an effort to use 1,100 kwh in 62 days. :bravo:

EDIT: Oh! dehumidifiers. Yeah! That’ll do it!

[quote=“Belgian Pie”][quote=“PigBloodCake”][quote=“finley”]

:astonished: Are you running an aluminium smelter in your spare bedroom?
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That’s about 553 kWh per month. That’s a bit higher than my avg but then I had to turn on the dehumidifiers quite often during those 62 days.

I wouldn’t consider it high though.[/quote]

1-MW solar power plant to light up 1,000 city homes … you use as much as 1,000 homes?[/quote]

I don’t get it…kWh stands for kilowatt-hour. So what is wrong with using 553 kilowatt-hours in 1 whole month?

I got 2k sq ft of home and I’m using way less than some Americans with the same square footage in their homes:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_electricity_does_an_average_2-story_3-bedroom_house_use_per_day_per_month_or_per_year

Plus I didn’t say Megawatts.

EDIT: Ok, let’s use Chinese then since some here are confused with my power unit usage. I used 1107 度 during the past 62 days…how’s that :unamused:

1,000 KW = 1 MW … right?

You forgot the hour, Einstein.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt_hour

“The kilowatt-hour (symbolized kWh) is a unit of energy equivalent to one kilowatt (1 kW) of power expended for one hour (1 h) of time.”