Japan, US agree to cooperate if Taiwan and China clash: report

Really? One container ship has slowed down ME trade in a way diplomatic sabre rattling never could. ha!

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I don’t mean right now, within the next year or two.

This invasion will be the largest amphibious operation in human history. Tens of thousands of vessels will be assembled—mostly commandeered from the Chinese merchant marine—to ferry 1 million Chinese troops across the strait, who will arrive in two waves. Their landing will be preceded by a fury of missiles and rockets, launched from the Rocket Force units in Fujian, Chinese Air Force fighter bombers flying in the strait, and the escort fleet itself.

That massive massing of stuff and people cannot happen in a void or under cover of the night. Fish in a barrel.

Easton estimates that Taiwanese, American, and Japanese leaders will know that the PLA is preparing for a cross-strait war more than 60 days before hostilities begin. They will know for certain that an invasion will happen more than 30 days before the first missiles are fired. This will give the Taiwanese ample time to move much of their command and control infrastructure into hardened mountain tunnels, move their fleet out of vulnerable ports, detain suspected agents and intelligence operatives, litter the ocean with sea mines, disperse and camouflage army units across the country, put the economy on war footing, and distribute weapons to Taiwan’s 2.5 million reservists.

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More nonsense. “ Though there was no discussion on how their countries should coordinate their response”

Basically nothing. Sure they’ll cooperate by sitting in the bleachers and watching the show together. They don’t have the guts to even think about intervening.

People who bet against America having the guts to do something usually come out badly. America wins when it decides it wants to enough; even when they don’t, they usually leave you pretty messed up.

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Sure. We do see how badly China has been messed up recently, don’t we.

Gee, I must have missed the Sino-American War. How’d it go?

china showing off

China has said the exercises are meant to show its determination to defend the island, which it considers part of Chinese territory, though Taiwan’s status is one of the most sensitive political issues between Washington and Beijing.

Uhm…no thanks?

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I don’t know if they have a play here with the current political climate. Tsai won by a huge landslide and the opposition has weakened even more since then. Interference outside of a straight up military coup won’t swing elections by double digits. And we are talking about nearly 20% margins last election with a huge turnout.

I would also put my money if another election happened today, we would be talking about 25%+ margins with how China has acted and how Taiwan has excelled.

I would read “determination to defend the island” in the same way I read the PRC’s “determination to liberate Tibet.”

Guy

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I don’t disagree. But I would not put it past the Chinese to still attempt some sort of political interference.

A political coup could be more effective than a military invasion.

“Let me in. I want to defend you.”
“Against what?”
“Against what I’m going to do to you if you don’t let me in.”

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One phone call in the near future from Beijing to Taipei: surrender within 24 hours or you’re finished. We’ll bomb you back to the Stone Age.

What would you do if you were Tsai? Sure you could make a bunch of phone calls but other than it’s be fait accompli.

Why? So they could be ostracized by the world and lose their power? Makes no sense.

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Reminded me of this old meme

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Triple down and make it fucking expensive.

If the choices are give it away for a guaranteed loss, mass incarceration of half the country

Or

Have a chance to win while making it at least fucking expensive and dealing them a GREAT loss.

I pick second.

Bomb us to the stone age! I dare you! Then you lose most of our valuables!

Paralyse the world with the end of TSMC! Do it!

We’ve got our finger on the world’s dead man’s switch! Shoot!

Millions of Chinese would lose their jobs, their customers, their incomes by bombing Taiwan to the stone age. Would be the biggest self-wound in history. Do it!

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Why do you think actions always make sense? Did it make sense for hitler to invade USSR? No. But he did it anyways.

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He was high on meth.
Winnie don’t do drugs.

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And the moral high ground with their own people, assuming collateral casualties from such a bombing from an untested PLA. I can’t see the majority of mainland Chinese being happy to unnecessarily kill a bunch of innocent Taiwanese Chinese…

It sorta did, as another poster noted on a different thread, and for the same reason the CCP might jump the gun here. They may have an advantage now that will probably shrink as the US repositions and bolsters support (and as Taiwan begins receiving shipments).

This is where the difference between a miscalculation and strategic genius can be a very fine -and dangerous- line.