Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard

"… It included screenshots of texts to Amber from Stephen Deuters, Depp’s personal assistant, apologizing for his abuse. “When I told him he kicked you, he cried. It was disgusting, and he knows it.” Heard goes on to reference other violent incidents, all uncontested by Depp’s assistant.

"However, in late 2018 Depp’s lawyer Adam Waldman — famous for his shady links to Russian oligarchs and disinformation campaigns including the 2016 election — released a statement claiming Johnny Depp was a victim of domestic abuse: Depp would sue both Heard and The Sun in the US and UK respectively for defamatory statements. And in January 2020, an edited, out of context audio was strategically leaked by Waldman. Amber’s words were both misquoted and misconstrued as her taunting Johnny for being an abuse victim, when the correct transcript and full recording hears her sobbing over the phone, telling Depp she thought he was going to kill her and refuting Depp’s excuse for his violence — that it was a ‘fair fight’, so he was a victim too. Waldman was kicked off the US defamation case for leaking evidence, but the damage was done.

"Never mind that texts from Depp to actor Paul Bettany proved he already had sexually violent murder fantasies about Heard — drowning her and burning her alive and raping her burnt corpse. Never mind the video of Depp shouting, smashing glasses, kicking doors and slamming cabinets, something aggressive enough for a domestic violence charge in other US states. Never mind that Amber’s medical records noted her injuries and had documented the attacks. Never mind that Heard already had pictures of her bruises with confirmed metadata — but of course the narrative then changed from Photoshop to special effects makeup. Amber was now an abuser, and Johnny her victim.

"And then, the UK trial happened. Despite a bevy of scandalous headlines and hashtags aimed to humiliate Amber, a trial that was meant to be an easy win for Depp due to the UK’s strict libel laws declared him to be a wife-beater— with twelve separate allegations of abuse proven in the High Court of Justice. Many were confused, as the majority of the reporting had focused on Heard’s shortcomings and social media was dominated by Depp supporters.

"And now Johnny Depp has dragged his ex-wife to Virginia, a state known for its lawsuit tourism due to its weaker freedom of speech laws. (N.B: Abusers are known for using the courts to further retraumatize and financially abuse their victims.) Despite multiple setbacks in Depp’s presentation of evidence, including his claim that Heard cut off his finger off being debunked by his own texts to three different people followed by an audio of him admitting he did it, the internet still remains vastly pro-Depp.

“Search her name on social media and you will find endless quantities of misogynistic abuse and victim-blaming. Other victims are seeing this, and thinking no one will believe them either. Bear in mind how you speak about this trial, and Amber in general — every time you choose to call her a liar, or a gold-digger, or an abuser — a victim you know will quietly decide they cannot trust you.

People need to stop being so fucking gullible

Johnny Depp has lied just as much on trial as Amber Heard, but you would only find youtube videos analysing every single tiny detail of her on witness stand using pictures where she looks the worst as thumbnail.

And his PR team is spreading all sorts of lies about her.

Her 12 allegations of his abuse were all proven true in the High Court of Justice in the UK.

Agreed. People need to fucking stop believing you can’t be an oppressor if you’re being oppressed.

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That’s weird. My Apple News and Google News feeds keep telling me that Depp is evil and Heard is a victim.

Yes, but were they proven by a real court? Or common sense?

I’m being a little hyperbolic here as it seems that Depp is a POS who has abused Heard in some ways. But Heard seems to have done at least as bad to Depp, and she is so fake and violent it’s hard to muster any sympathy for her.

Having said that, I’m not sure how Depp can possibly win this case, unless the point was merely to move public opinion, which it seems he has, despite the press covering for Heard.

Take a look at twitter, reddit, and youtube. News outlets with a shred of credibility will verify the content, that’s why their coverage on the trial is usually more objective, and therefore more accurate.

There is no evidence of her actually physicall abusing him. She might have had hurt him while defending herself once or twice, but he was the real abuser. The audio leaked by Depp’s previous lawyer has been proven to be edited.

High Court of Justice in the UK is not a real court? Excuse me?

No thanks.

This is one of the dumbest statements I’ve ever seen on Forumosa. Congrats!

Other than the audio, the witnesses, and his testimony. Other than that overwhelmingly obvious evidence, sure.

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There is.

But my understanding is the trial is to prove he wasn’t the abuser not that she was the abuser.

Not sure why you seem to side with Amber on this. She was in the wrong and tried to play victim when she was anything but.

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Which audio? This one?

Or this video?
https://twitter.com/IvanaE/status/1530213530078789634

You mean this testimony where he admits a picture submitted to court was photoshopped?

https://twitter.com/IvanaE/status/1529532513835704322

You mean this witness, Dr. Spiegel, that testified that “Mr. Depp has behaviors that are consistent with someone that both has substance use disorder as well as behaviors of someone who is a perpetrator of intimate partner violence.”?

https://twitter.com/IvanaE/status/1528748986907107331

Or these witnesses?

Or these Johnny Depp witnesses that testified to seeing injuries on Amber Heard in person?

https://twitter.com/IvanaE/status/1526128582879490050

I wouldn’t say she was never in the wrong, but his history of abuse is absolutely true. People just choose to ignore it.

The one where she admits to beating him.

This video paints Heard in a really bad light. Depp doesn’t come out good either, but this doesn’t help her.

No. The testimony which portrays her as an abuser and a liar.

No, the witnesses who prove that Heard abused Depp.

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Isn’t it ironic that you only read/watch audios, videos, testimonies, and witnesses that prove Heard abused Depp? Amber Heard had those too.

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2020/2911.html

The UK court decision is publicly available and provides evidence — photos, witnesses, text messages — of 12 abuse incidents by Depp. This isn’t he said/she said, it’s extremely well documented.

Also, one of Johnny Depp’s exes did testify against him on the court. Nobody bothers reading about it because that old hag CoKate is obviously a goddess lmao.

I find that watching the trial has been kind of fascinating, but at the same time, when I didn’t click on the Youtube clips, I felt much better not knowing what went down in their relationship.

To me, someone who is not taking drugs, not even smoking and only very rarely drinking alcohol, it boggles my mind how big a part substance abusive is in these people’s lives. Not just Depp, but Amber, her sister, her father, friends… everyone does weed, cocaine, mushrooms, excessive drinking. Not sure if everyone finds this normal or not these days, for me it’s the opposite of normal.

I lost interest in the trial and don’t care who wins or loses.

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At this point the only solution is to let them drink mega pints of wine, get coked up and go at it in the octagon on PPV. Winner gets 50 million.

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Not sure why everyone is giving @Gain a hard time. It’s good to know Amber Heard has at least one fan in the world. :smirk:

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#METOO

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Every accusation from you is a confession. Because I read the news, I’ve gotten more than enough pro-Heard narratives from the media (in fact a vast majority of the reporting so far). As I said above, neither looks good from what I’ve seen and I don’t see how Depp can win this case, but you go on believing only what confirms your bias and the things that exist only in your mind.

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I am not her fan at all. I simply find the misogyny appalling. Just ask yourself how lopsided the information you have read about the trial is when there are just as many witnesses and testimonials on Amber Heard’s side.

The worst is Johnny Depp’s abuse allgeations have been proven true in a UK court, but everyone conveniently erased that to fit their narrative that Amber Heard is the inexcusable gone girl while Johnny Depp is the poor abuse victim. It’s pathetic.

Funny how you trust the news now when a few posts above you were calling it untrustworthy.

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Johnny wins. $15,000,000.

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Johnny WON

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