as we all know the law in Taiwan can be a bit confusing.That’s why I hope someone can tell me what is going on at KOjen and other schools where busts have occurred.It has been not too legal to work at a kindy for some time,but is the government busy with a crackdown or what?? And who heard about the fines the KOJEN teachers got??NT 1000 000 is whats going around
Did the “Search” button break during the move?
No, but the “prick” filter seems to have.
slr, see this thread: forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.ph … c&&start=0
Tetsuo, are there any other relevant threads?
Bullshit I’m sure.
Has anyone who has been deported or fined by the government ever posted on this or any other forum with a first hand account? I have never seen one. I believe this to be a rumour based upon a rumour.
Yes, but that was more than a decade ago.
What was more than a decade ago?
No one has ever been deported for teaching English illegally.
don’t stick your head in the sand Mr Doom. Most Hess schools in the Northern part of the city have been inspected by the foreign police.At 1 school 2 foreigners were taken to the police station for 4 hours and held separately while questioned.Kojen teachers did get a fine,and luckilly the school paid up.They probably didn’t have a choice cause whick Kojen teacher will go to school if your school doesn’t support you in a situation like that.
Hopefully these busts will die out, but for now it’s wise to keep your eyes open.Has anyone approached their schools about this??
What do you know? 
I’ve seen it with my own eyes, although not since '92.
[quote=“jeff”]No, but the “prick” filter seems to have.
slr, see this thread: forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.ph … c&&start=0
Tetsuo, are there any other relevant threads?[/quote]
I swear, there’s a “i heard teachers r getting deported” post every few weeks. Hence the snippiness.
Let’s see:
This one
this one
plus many more that get/got merged and/or floundered.
What do you know? I’ve seen it with my own eyes, although not since '92.[/quote]
Were you at the airport when I got kicked out? No, wait, I think that was 1991.
This is a topic of particular interest to me. I, too, am skeptical about a lot of the claims made about deportations and the like. I am not going to go as far as Dr. Doom and suggest that no one has ever been deported for teaching illegally, but it would be good to get a definitive answer on the subject.
Maoman and Jeff appear to have had personal experiences in the past. Were you guys actually deported or was it waived at the last moment? If you were actually deported, what effect did this have on your return to Taiwan? Was there a period for which you were unable to return? What exactly were you deported for - working illegally without an ARC, or working in a school/kindy other than the one on your ARC?
Does anyone have any personal experience with deportation since 1992? In particular any teachers with ARC’s for one school, but caught working in another school or kindergarten?
I was deported for working without an ARC (back when nobody had ARCs), as I mentioned in another thread(s) somewhere. Arrested at the school, spent the night at the police station, taken to the tax bureau, travel agent, McDonalds, and CKS Airport the next morning where I was handed over to airport police. They put a “cancelled” stamp on my (5-year multiple entry) visa, but nothing in computer files. I had a new passport next time I applied for a visa, 4 months later, and had no trouble getting one. The guy who deprted me actually said I could come back to Taiwan the next day, assuming I could have gotten a new visa with my last one being cancelled (highly unlikely).
Tetsuo, I understand but it’s often hard to find what you’re looking for with the search function, especially if you’re a newcomer.
I was never deported - but my next-door-neighbour at Toyo Country Club where I lived In Jiayi was. He had been nabbed for teaching at a buxiban without a work permit back in 1992. The cops went into the school with a camera, took pictures of the teachers in action, requested passports, and upon learning that the teachers lacked the proper visas, they escorted the teachers to theri apartments, helped them pack up essentials, and then drove them to a detention centre in Taoyuan. Flights home were arranged within days.
Maoman wrote: [quote]I was never deported - but my next-door-neighbour at Toyo Country Club where I lived In Jiayi was. He had been nabbed for teaching at a buxiban without a work permit back in 1992. The cops went into the school with a camera, took pictures of the teachers in action, requested passports, and upon learning that the teachers lacked the proper visas, they escorted the teachers to theri apartments, helped them pack up essentials, and then drove them to a detention centre in Taoyuan. Flights home were arranged within days[/quote]
Ah, the bad old days in Chiayi. If was all a matter of buxibans using their guanxi (read: red envelopes) with local govt. and police to screw over the competition.
Things are okay down there now.
[quote=“almas john”]
Ah, the bad old days in Chiayi (Jiayi). If was all a matter of buxibans using their guanxi (read: red envelopes) with local govt. and police to screw over the competition.
Things are okay down there now.[/quote]
Our laoban thought he had it worked out. Unfortunately, his guanxi was with the local police, not the foreign affairs division. This was in Nantou county.
The question remains:
Does anyone have any direct experience of someone being deported for teaching English recently?
I have been reading posts on Tealit, Dave’s Cafe and Forumosa for about 4 years and Jeff’s is the only first hand deportation experience I’ve read.
I know at least 2 other people were deported during the same time period I was.