Looking for Oldest Chinese version of Old MacDonald

Hello. I’m looking for the oldest recorded version of Old MacDonald Had a Farm in Chinese. Chinese Title: 王老先生有块地.
I all I’m getting is modern children’s chants.
I need a “hick” Taiwanese Farmer rendition for a project I’m working on.
Plus, I’m genuinely interested in the history of children’s songs and musical appropriation.
The Chinese wikipedia entry is a waste of space. There must be a fascinating history behind this and other songs…

If anyone wants to record a Chinese Hick version of this song, I’m sorry I can’t pay you. It’s just for entertaining my kids and stupid Facebook posts. I’ll put your name in the file or presentation though.

If anyone has any historical history on Taiwanese Children’s songs or interesting facts, please add them here.
Like how did an Israeli Children’s song become a Taiwanese song? Zum Gali Gali.

Missed this thread back then. Can’t find anything on 王老先生有塊地 though. Did you just want to find an old recording, or are you wondering about how the translated lyrics evolved? My memory is that since the 80s the translation is Taiwan pretty much stayed the same, maybe just with different animals thrown in.

According to this blog post, Zum Gali Gali seems to have been popularized in Taiwan by the Boy Scouts, specifically by Zhang Qing-san (張慶三) when he included this song in his book 唱和跳全集, published in 1978? I’m not sure on the date, could be even earlier. Zhang listed Zum Gali Gali as a Palestinian song in the book, and he was probably talking about the geographic concept of Palestine.

The blog post also points to an even earlier Taigi translation of Zum Gali Gali called “Tsi̍t-tsiah gû beh bē gōo-tshing-khoo” (一隻牛欲賣五千塊). The song was later adapted in a Taigi song 無情人有情天 by 陳亞蘭 and 施文彬 in 1994. I found a 1984 recording of the original version.

This blog post wrote about another song, Неделька, Zhang included in this book.

Anyway, way too late… Wish I saw this back in 2018. Great, now “Tsi̍t-tsiah gû beh bē gōo-tshing-khoo” is stuck in my head.

Is The Seeker still in seek mode?

Last post in 2023, so I’m 3 years too late

History of Mandarin adaptation of Frère Jacques

Before any Mandarin adaptation, Frère Jacques was already adapted into Cantonese and other Sinitic languages in South East Asia. There is a Cantonese version 打開蚊帳 (Open the Mosquito Net), which is basically about trying to get rid of a mosquito that snuck into the mosquito net. This version existed at least as early as 1835.

打開蚊帳、打開蚊帳。有隻蚊、有隻蚊。快啲攞把扇嚟、快啲攞把扇嚟。撥走佢、撥走佢

In 1926, Frère Jacques was adapted into a anti-warlord song for the Northern expedition, called the National Revolution Song.

The lyrics goes:

打倒列強,打倒列強,除軍閥,除軍閥,國民革命成功,國民革命成功,齊歡唱!齊歡唱!

Defeat imperialists. Defeat imperialists. Get rid warlords. Get rid warlords. VIVA national revolution. VIVA national revolution. Celebrate! Celebrate!

This version was like the de facto National Anthem of the CKS led ROC government between 1927 and 1930.

Half way through the Northern expedition, Chiang Kai-shek broke off with Wang Jin-wei and the CCP. So his frienemies (some says it was Feng Yu-hisang in 1930) changed the lyrics to:

打倒老蔣,打倒老蔣,除軍閥!除軍閥!革命一定成功,革命一定成功,齊歡唱!齊歡唱!

Defeat Chiang baldie. Defeat Chiang baldie. Get rid warlords. Get rid warlords. VIVA revolution. VIVA revolution. Celebrate! Celebrate!

After CKS fled to Taiwan with tail between his legs, the CCP readapted the song to persecute land owners.

打倒土豪,打倒土豪,分田地!分田地!我們要做主人,我們要做主人,齊歡唱!齊歡唱!

Defeat landlords. Defeat landlords. Divide the land. Divide the land. We are the masters. We are the masters. Celebrate! Celebrate!

In 1965, the KMT readapted it to an anti-communist military song.

打倒共匪,打倒共匪 保國家,保國家, 固守台灣基地,完成反攻大陸, 真高興,真高興。

Defeat the communist bandits. Defeat the communist bandits. Save the country. Save the country. Defend our base in Taiwan. Accomplish retaking the mainland. We’re so glad. We’re so glad.

As to how the current version of two tigers came about…

A likely origin story is that around the time the KMT was pushing for their National Revolution Song to become the national anthem, the tune become popular, and for some reason, people started attaching the translated lyrics to Three Blind Mice to the tune of Frère Jacques.

Translation of Three Blind Mice

三隻盲鼠,三隻盲鼠。瞧它們跑,瞧它們跑。它們都在追趕那個農婦。她用刀切了它們的尾巴。你見過這樣的情景嗎?如三隻盲鼠。

To make the lyrics fit the tune better it was first shortened to

三隻盲鼠,三隻盲鼠。瞧它們跑,瞧它們跑。一隻没有尾巴,兩隻没有耳朵。真奇怪。真奇怪。

Three Blind Mice. Three Blind Mice. See how they run! See how they run! One’s missing a tail. The other two are missing their ears. So strange. So strange.

Basically the farmer’s wife was cut from the song, but the effect of her cutting off their tails stayed.

Then someone thought it flowed better if the number of mice missing a tail and ears matched, and changed the song to two blind mice.

兩隻盲鼠,兩隻盲鼠。瞧它們跑,瞧它們跑。一隻没有尾巴,一隻没有耳朵。真奇怪。真奇怪。

Then 盲鼠 blind mice was eggcorned to 老虎 tiger, and with some slight alteration, the current version was born sometime in late 1920s. The missing eyes part in the current version probably hints at the Three Blind Mice origin.

兩隻老虎,兩隻老虎。跑得快,跑得快。一隻没有眼睛,一隻没有尾巴。真奇怪。真奇怪。

The earliest written record of 兩隻老虎 might be a 1943 Chiang Ching-kuo speech in Chungking. If the tigers version was created in late 1920s, then CKS would have learned the song in his teens.