Lost and found -- LONG strange story, Sorry!

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Walking home from the night market at 1:am I came across a cell phone lying in the street. I assumed it was probably crushed by a passing car, but being a techie I picked it up for further inspection anyway. To my surprize it was a working smart phone. No one had seen it because it was in the shadow of a utility pole. I took it home figuring the owner would call for it as soon as they noticed it missing. I didn’t have to wait long, before I came in the door the phone was ringing. As soon as I answered it they hung up (Probably the English). They called back and began to speak in Chinese. I repeated several times “sorry I only speak English” " no Chinese". I was hoping they would get someone on the phone who spoke English. This wasn’t as far featched, as it might seem. I found the phone in the proximity of several dorm buildings of Chang Yang University in Jhongli, Taiwan. The entire area is inundated with their students. All students of Chang Yuan University must speak English as a requirement of admission. For whatever reason this person wasen’t having it. They just kept calling back, eventually screaming at me in Chinese. Eventually I turned the phone off, not wanting to risk them running down the battery betore my Chinese wife got home to return the phone. The next morning, (my wife works nights), I told my wife the story. She went Appleplextic . Nothing I did was right!

First mistake- I should have left the phone in the street! (Where it would have certainly would have been distorted?) My wife-their fault for dropping it!
Mistake number 2, you never should have answered the phone. Admittedly she has told me many times, " never answer the phone unless you know who is calling. There are lots of scammers out there. "
Mistake number three. You should never have brought the phone home. These phones have gps (I knew that) , the police will be comming through the door any minute now to take you to jail. The owner will tell the police you stool it.

See these scratches in the case, the owner will claim you did it and you must pay for all repairs or a new phone. If you don’t agree to pay, you will not get out of jail.

She refused to call back the caller or meet them, even at a public place to return the phone.

Finely I said, " don’t help" I’ll walk to the police station myself and drop it off. She only then agreed to drive me, bitching all the way. The phone was dropped off without incident . The police did look a bit perplexed (didn’t have any English speaking officers on duty that morning) but they were gratuitous as always.
My wife was nervous for days afterwards, claiming the police would come and take me away. They never did.

This happened early in my visit. Since then I have notice Taiwanese tend to leave things where they fine them, even if it’s obvious the owner didn’t intend to leave them, or it faces certain distruction if it remain where it is, as was the case with the cell phone.
As an American I find this alien. I think we think more in terms of resourses going unutilized (wasted). We might prop up a lost item so it might more easily be seen, or post a sign if its found and valuable, but eventually someone, if not the owner, will put the resource to use.

See that’s what happens when you try to be a good dude. But yeah, leave it lying in the street.

Moral of the story:

  1. learn a bit of Chinese.

  2. It’s tough having a partner who thinks you’re an asshole when you’re not.

You did a good thing. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

In Hindsight it would of been good to get a buddy or something to answer in Chinese when they called. I can understand the guy on the other end not understanding your english then getting frustrated about it. Do phonew get robbed here? Im pretty amazed to see things laying around here and just left alone. Theres a fridge in a street near me with milk in it. Back in my country that fridge would be smashed to bits and the milk robbed just for the hell of it

A couple of years ago I found a smartphone (the top end HTC model of that year) next to a car at a night market. I was with my wife and we were very close to a police station, our first plan was to take it there and let the police handle it. WHile we were walking, the owner called his smartphone from a friend’s number, my wife answered and we immediately met to give it back to him. BAsically he lost it when he was getting out of the car.

My wife game the same advice though, so never bring it home. Either bring it to the police station or leave it there. Also, if I was by myself I would have never answered the phone call, just let the police handle that. When I found a phone on the ground in Australia it was much quicker to scroll through the list of numbers and make a couple of phone call to find a relative. Here in Taiwan I couldn’t be bothered to try that.

This is why so many big noses have stories about the “honesty” of locals here. We’ve all left wallets on park benches, keys in scooters, and come back from circumnavigating the globe in a tea tray to find them where we left them. It may actually be nothing to do with “honesty” and everything to do with a thought process taught here from a young age, namely, don’t touch shit what don’t belong to you, only bad things can come of it. Sometimes the bad things are false accusations of theft or damage, sometimes its the old ghost of the dead owner malarkey. Still it works out good for us, so I ain’t complaining.

Generally that works well for stuff that’s been left somewhere “on purpose” - say, someone’s propped up their shopping bag beside their scooter and forgotten about it. Eventually they’ll remember what they did and come back for it. If someone’s dropped their keys at some random place in the street, bring it to the police. I’m hopelessly absentminded and always leaving stuff everywhere. It always turns out somebody has picked whatever-it-is up and handed it to the obvious authority, and with a couple of phone calls I’ve got it back.

Phones, I don’t see a problem with picking it up and phoning a number, or handing it over to the police. But yeah, probably not the best plan to take it home, especially if you can’t actually speak to the person when they call.

Valuables -like IDs, NHI cards, cellphones, computers, bundles of money -since Taiwnaese like to pay everything in cash, it is actually a normal ocurrence to get a million NTDs in a plastic bag and put it on the scooter then absentmindedly dropping it- should be taken to the nearest police station. If found at the MRT, then the MRT station.

Keys, clothes, papers, etc. should be left where you found them or in the nearest most prominent place. If they need them, they will come for them. Just look at the collections of umbrellas at any store, vet, clinic, coffee, beauty parlor, etc.

Most scammers give up when you tal in English. It is not our fault that the education system has obedience so ingrained that many a PhD is told to get their money out of teh bank and they compy, not to mention the ones that claim to be George clooney so send me your naked pics and then extort you for it. Those are classinc exaples -like once every month- aside from the usual hourly this is the police give us your money and we kidnapped your son Daddy help.

OTOH, second that thing about learning Chinese ASAP. You are getting a bit distorted vision of the world through someone else’s eyes -like police cannot enter your home uninvited. We are not under martial law anymore. That deathly fear of authority is a problem. I foresee lots of difficulties in your marriage down the road if you do not step up your game ASAP and try to understand the world around you and be able to navigate it by yourself - yes, you do know the neighborhood and its surroundings , but overdependence on the sleeping dictionary will backfire bad, examples abound on this forum.

There was a thing on the news last week (I know, but still) about some goofballs running a scam where they would leave their phone on the seat of, or on the ground next to, their scooter, which was parked in full view of a Stalincam, and hide nearby. The second anyone picked up the phone, they’d jump out and start loudly accusing the dude of robbing it. An extortion attempt would follow, leveraging that same blind reptile fear of the authorities. :unamused:

I get your point, but not stealing shit is still pretty honest .

I beg to differ. Take it to the police. If no one claims it after 6 months, it is yours. I have done that many times, and I have a drawer full of old phones to show for it.

And…there is also this little old wives tale. Seems if you see a nicely wrapped box in the street, don’t pick it up because apparently legend has it that if a young lady dies without getting married. Her folks like to do this trick in the hope some nice young man will find it and …they propose the young man marries the dead girl in a ceremony to placate her in the afterlife. Something like that. I forget the fine points. My mom used to warn me of that.

p.s. LOL to above poster… A drawer of old phones? Ha.

Well old fones aint worth a whole hecka lot these days.

Wife thinks she can unload her iphone5 S that she got for 650 in INdonesia for about 500, after using it for 2 years.
Seems the going rate is less then 300 bucks. Hardly worth selling.

[quote=“tommy525”]And…there is also this little old wives tale. Seems if you see a nicely wrapped box in the street, don’t pick it up because apparently legend has it that if a young lady dies without getting married. Her folks like to do this trick in the hope some nice young man will find it and …they propose the young man marries the dead girl in a ceremony to placate her in the afterlife. Something like that. I forget the fine points. My mom used to warn me of that.

p.s. LOL to above poster… A drawer of old phones? Ha.

Well old phones aint worth a whole hecka lot these days.

Wife thinks she can unload her iphone5 S that she got for 650 in INdonesia for about 500, after using it for 2 years.
Seems the going rate is less then 300 bucks. Hardly worth selling.[/quote]

It is a red envelope with money. Recently, they made a movie about that. This Canadian guy that has a cute kid and now participating in Dad, where are we going? in China starred in it.

Donate the old phones to shelters -in the US, battered women ones.

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It is a red envelope with money. Recently, they made a movie about that. This Canadian guy that has a cute kid and now participating in Dad, where are we going? in China starred in it.[/quote]
That sounds interesting. Do you know the name of the movie? I don’t really watch “Dad, where are we going?” so I don’t know who is the Canadian guy you are talking about…

Or use it for surveillance apps such as Alfred.

Back to the topic, I still believe that are more honest people here than back home. When I went to get back my company’s badge from the “Lost & Found” at Taipei Main Station, I was impressed with the amount of things people find inside or around of the MRT stations and send to their office. And not only cheap thing but also some expensive ones…

It is a red envelope with money. Recently, they made a movie about that. This Canadian guy that has a cute kid and now participating in Dad, where are we going? in China starred in it.
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Yeah, it happens. Saw one with ex-gf while visiting granddad at the boneyard. Asked her what it was and was advised not to touch it.

Frankly I would have thought being married to a dead girl makes for a very placid married life. :smiley:

[quote=“Ricarte”][quote=“Icon”]
It is a red envelope with money. Recently, they made a movie about that. This Canadian guy that has a cute kid and now participating in Dad, where are we going? in China starred in it.[/quote]
That sounds interesting. Do you know the name of the movie? I don’t really watch “Dad, where are we going?” so I don’t know who is the Canadian guy you are talking about…

Or use it for surveillance apps such as Alfred.

Back to the topic, I still believe that are more honest people here than back home. When I went to get back my company’s badge from the “Lost & Found” at Taipei Main Station, I was impressed with the amount of things people find inside or around of the MRT stations and send to their office. And not only cheap thing but also some expensive ones…[/quote]

Married to a Ghost as English title. Ba Wo Qu Hui Jia.

We found a taiwanese ID last night. My coworker took it to the metro assitant. They put it together I guess with hundreds of such documents -credit cards the most common, I think. :astonished:

Back in the day if one finds a wallet, one puts it in the post office boxes that are pretty much on every street. The post office sends it back to the owner. Any money inside? Who knows.

I suppose you could do the same with a cellphone you find?
Let the post office handle it.

It is a red envelope with money. Recently, they made a movie about that. This Canadian guy that has a cute kid and now participating in Dad, where are we going? in China starred in it.
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Yeah, it happens. Saw one with ex-gf while visiting granddad at the boneyard. Asked her what it was and was advised not to touch it.

Frankly I would have thought being married to a dead girl makes for a very placid married life. :smiley:[/quote]

Would be funny if a foreigner picked it up, actually.

Ha … never thought of that. Imagine the looks on (certain) parents’ faces.

Yeah it’s quite a common superstition. Like never pick up anything valuable (money or other crap like a ring or something) on the streets as people “intentionally” drop them there to get rid of bad luck, if you pick them up, you somehow inherit their bad luck then shit will happen. So basically money = bad luck by this hilarious logic.