March to War: excellent military analysis

[serious_fun]

[quote]We bring to the attention of our readers, this carefully documented review of the ongoing naval build-up and deployment of coalition forces in the Middle East.

The article examines the geopolitics behind this military deployment and its relationship to “the Battle for Oil”.

The structure of military alliances is crucial to an understanding of these war preparations.

The naval deployment is taking place in two distinct theaters: the Persian Gulf and the Eastern Mediterranean. [/quote]

This article was outstanding! I was impressed by the level of research done…those of you who are military buffs will appreciate the details about battle-group deployments, war games, and strategic alliances in the Middle East. A “must-read” for those of us intrigued by geopolitical machinations…or dismayed by the criminality of the Neo-Jacobins.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NAZ20061001&articleId=3361

[fred_smith]

First of all, let me congratulate you on your TWO classical quotes. I happen to like St. Augustine very much. Have you ever read him? or do you just shop around for clever quotations?

Let us look at just one paragraph from this spiel…

Even prior to this decade of Anglo-American bombardment and U.N. sanctions, Iraq was caught in an eight-year war with Iran in the 1980s. The war between Iran and Iraq was also fuelled and organized by the United States to weaken both. In retrospect the manipulation of a war between Iran and Iraq to weaken both states seems to be strategic planning in preparation for future military operations against them. In this time preparations were also being made by securing the Balkans for future Anglo-American operations. The Balkans is adjacent to the Middle East and is also a geographic extension of the region. Preparations were made by expanding NATO, shifting military bases eastward, and securing energy routes. Dismantling the state of Yugoslavia was also a part of this objective. Yugoslavia was the regional power of the Balkans and Southeast Europe. This was done through close coordination between the Anglo-American alliance and NATO. Now all eyes are on Iran and Syria. Will there be another Anglo-American initiated war in the Middle East?

Is it not incredible how the US could get Saddam to invade Iran only to invade Saddam’s Iraq 23 years later after several different administrations. THAT decision of course to aid Saddam and get him started was probably put into place by Carter? since as we can see the invasions are usually predated by two years of planning? As to the Serbia thing. Gosh I had no idea that we caused the Serbian government to engage in Greater Serbia policies that alientated all the other ethnic groups stoking the caldron so that we could invade and get “closer” to the Middle East. Why would we need to do so with Romania and Bulgaria offering bases along with Georgia, Azerbaidzhan and those we have in Turkey? Now, that we are in Iraq? do we still need to deal with Serbia? or are we “close enough?” hahah

[Doctor_Evil]

[quote=“fred smith”]
Is it not incredible how the US could get Saddam to invade Iran only to invade Saddam’s Iraq 23 years later after several different administrations. [/quote]

The Illuminati are all-seeing, all-knowing and all-powerful.

illuminati-news.com/index3.htm

[fred_smith]

It is f***ing hot in Romania these days and Fred Smith is going to be satisfied to just get “lighted” up a bit rather than seeking “illumination.” haha

[serious_fun]

[quote=“fred smith”]
First of all, let me congratulate you on your TWO classical quotes. I happen to like St. Augustine very much. Have you ever read him? or do you just shop around for clever quotations?[/quote]

St. Augustine is a favorite of mine…I find myself rereading City of God every year…his accomplishments as a “professor” of rhetoric in Carthage, Athens, and Rome really put us “moderns” in our place…and in our time? and Virgil? his poems have alluded to the pederasts in the Roman Empire- wholly appropriate these days when discussing the current iteration of the (formerly) “Republican” party in the US, n’est-ce-pas?

re: Shopping for quotes, I saw this one online:

“If we just let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely, and we don’t try to piece together clever diplomacy but just wage a total war, our children will sing great songs about us years from now.”- Richard Perle

[quote=“fred smith”]
Is it not incredible how the US could get Saddam to invade Iran only to invade Saddam’s Iraq 23 years later after several different administrations. THAT decision of course to aid Saddam and get him started was probably put into place by Carter? since as we can see the invasions are usually predated by two years of planning? As to the Serbia thing. Gosh I had no idea that we caused the Serbian government to engage in Greater Serbia policies that alientated all the other ethnic groups stoking the caldron so that we could invade and get “closer” to the Middle East. Why would we need to do so with Romania and Bulgaria offering bases along with Georgia, Azerbaidzhan and those we have in Turkey? Now, that we are in Iraq? do we still need to deal with Serbia? or are we “close enough?” hahah[/quote]

I think that the author makes connections between events that we might not make…this is geopolitical speculation. The involvement of the anglo-american influence cannot be denied, even it is often ridiculed…the actions of the OCSE for example. The interests of the CiA/narco-traffic gangs in the former Yugoslavia working with Albanian mafia is of great interest to me, but I need to do more research into that filth. As regards the “coalition of the billing” and the archipelago of military bases, I don’t know why certain countries were selected. The article presents some fascinating insight into what seems to be the lead-up to the next phase of imperial war.

[fred_smith]

The article presents some fascinating insight into what seems to be the lead-up to the next phase of imperial war.

and THAT is precisely why I asked you if you had ever read ST. Augustine. Incredible.

[serious_fun]

@fred smith

[quote]The article presents some fascinating insight into what seems to be the lead-up to the next phase of imperial war.

and THAT is precisely why I asked you if you had ever read ST. Augustine. Incredible.[/quote]

okay…shall we discuss “Just War Theory” or “Just War Tradition(s)”?? it could be a long thread! and I will admit that I am most certainly NOT a scholar on things Augustinian!

but I am willing to listen/read and learn.

[Bodo]

Alright boyz, I’m getting out the popcorn bowl and waiting for a good show. Educate me on St. Augustine. Sounds fascinating.

Damn Fred . . . do you have a life . . . incredible the breadth of your reading . . . or incredible the lack of mine . . . do you get out much . . . sounds like the only thing you do is read read read . . . .

Bodo

[Mr_PBH]

[quote=“Bodo”]Alright boyz, I’m getting out the popcorn bowl and waiting for a good show. Educate me on St. Augustine. Sounds fascinating.

Damn Fred . . . do you have a life . . . incredible the breadth of your reading . . . or incredible the lack of mine . . . do you get out much . . . sounds like the only thing you do is read read read . . . .

Bodo[/quote]

Fred has cloned himself a dozen times. They all plug back into the collective each night and share information and chant the central game plan (which is unknown to mere mortals).

[politbureau]

Knowledge without wisdom is like being a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest.

"Iran behind Rice’s Mid-East tour

Why did Condoleezza Rice come to Israel and the West Bank earlier this week?

By all accounts, the US secretary of state had no fresh ideas to offer to revive what used to be called the Middle East peace process. . . .

Indeed state department counsellor Philip Zelikow seemed to give the game away in an address to a Washington think tank on 15 September.

“For the Arab moderates and for the Europeans, some sense of progress and momentum on the Arab-Israeli dispute is just a sine qua non for their ability to co-operate actively with the United States on a lot of other things that we care about.”

No mention of Iran, but the implication is clear.

Give US friends cover, at least by appearing engaged on the Israeli-Palestinian issue. . . .

If Iran was the real reason behind this visit, there is another implication.

If the US wants to pursue the diplomatic route in the dispute with Iran, Arab support is not exactly critical.

The only Arab country on the Security Council is Qatar, hardly a crucial vote to be lobbied for.

No, the logic of this line of reasoning is that military action against Iran is now being very seriously considered in Washington. . . . ."

Meanwhile, back at the ass kicking contest . . . :

" . . . U.S. officials look toward Sunday as a possible date for North Korea to carry out the test. Oct. 8 is the ninth anniversary of Kim Jong Il’s appointment as head of the Korean Workers’ Party . . . ."

[serious_fun]

[quote=“spook”]
No mention of Iran, but the implication is clear.[/quote]

yes…back to the OP…military buildup…and Iran!

Exiles peddling back-channel intelligence, upstart advocacy groups pressing for regime change, administration hawks intent on remaking the Middle East—the scene in Washington is looking eerily familiar as the Iran standoff grows more tense. Instead of Ahmad Chalabi, we have the likes of Iran-Contra arms-dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar. A new Iran directorate inside the Pentagon features some of the same people who brought you the Iraq intel-cherrypicking operation at the Office of Special Plans. Whether calling for outright regime change or pushing “democracy promotion” initiatives to undermine the Iranian government, an expanding cast of characters has emerged to promote confrontation between the U.S. and Iran.

a decent look at some of the clowns in the “Whack iran” lobby found here:

motherjones.com/news/update/ … /iran.html