Michael Moore & Fahrenheit 9/11 (Part 2)

But remember Alien:

All men are evil bastards with excessive levels of testosterone that wanna play with guns and shoot things. But I will leave you with my favorite Camille Paglia quote, I know you love this one…

“If women were in charge, we would still all be living in grass huts.” hahaha

And don’t you be too sure about what you find back in Ameeeerrrica. By the way, wouldn’t it suit your political sensibilities better to stop off in the Bay Area? Where you going to vote in the next election anyway? North Carolina or South? Will your vote even matter? hahaha Just to make it up to you, I may head back for the State House Ball this year in Charleston. Wanna go as my maid? I need someone to watch my top hat and gloves. haha

I suppose however that despite the fact that you will be stateside, that we will still have the benefit of your pearls of daily wisdom being cast before us swine?

Love and kisses

Freddie

Yes, Fred. I’ve heard your misogynistic rants before. No wonder you don’t have a girlfriend. Um. :s

And in answer to that ever so amusing quote, I say, too bad we’re not.

Alien:

What misogynistic rants. I only quoted that to you once before otherwise you have never heard me say nor read me write (?!) anything of the sort. So when are you finally out of here. Wanna go to Alleycat’s for pizza say tomorrow night? I want to poison your feta cheese and sundried tomato toppings with Republican star dust. It will make you piss standing up and vote for PATRIOTS.

Love Fred

(cough cough)

[b]The French market for fast food has grown by 5.8% since 2001 to reach a value of

Hey Alien! I’ll bet this guy has some ideas on how to combat obesity in women. Up for a Big Mac?:lol:

Wife-beating row imam allowed back into France

ALGIERS, May 17 (AFP) - A radical Islamic cleric, Abdelkader Bouziane, on Monday said he had been given a visa allowing him to return to France, which expelled him on April 21 after he publicly justified wife-beating.

“The French consulate in Algiers sent me a fax on Sunday afternoon saying I’d been given my visa. I’ve been to fetch it,” the imam said, adding that he would be “very happy” to be reunited with his family.

The polygamous father of 16 children who hold French nationality, was expelled to Algeria and saw his French resident’s permit confiscated reportedly less for his highly controversial moral stance than because of alleged links with extreme Muslim fundamentalist groups.

Bouziane, imam of a mosque in a suburb of the central French city of Lyon, roused a furore last month by defending in a magazine interview sexual inequality, the physical punishment of unfaithful or disobedient wives and polygamy.

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How is it that people can form such a stubbornly negative opinion of a movie they haven’t seen?

Oh, and if Moore is such a consistent bullshit artist as you seem to imply, why hasn’t anyone he’s “hounded” successfully sued him for slander/defamation yet?

Because we’ve already seen his bullshit before?

He has been. And other cases are still in court.

“He makes a fool of people he interviews, then gallops away with money,” said Glen Lenhoff, a Flint attorney who successfully sued Moore and Warner Brothers – the company that distributed “Roger & Me” – for the way he portrayed some people.

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The RePUBElicans just don’t have a sense of humour, do they?

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[quote]The power of laughter

Michael Moore, Bush-baiter, cult figure and global internet brand, has much to teach modern politicians

Jackie Ashley
Thursday May 20, 2004
The Guardian

There are many ways of making a political point, as MPs unhappily discovered yesterday. One of them is to hurl a balloon full of purple powder into the chamber of the House of Commons, an act that should be universally condemned. But, when traditional means fail, perhaps there are other ways of getting through.

Look at what’s happening in the US, where the press is notoriously unenthusiastic about leftwing dissent. How else do you explain the 4 million Americans who every month visit the Guardian’s website. My own e-postbag always contains a good number of correspondents from the States, who complain that pro-abortion or anti-war articles in this paper would not see the light of day in the mainstream press there.

But now America has Michael Moore. He’s huge. Huge personally - a great big hairy doughball of a man. He’s huge commercially. He’s huge on the web. And he’s huge in the scale of his ambition - he is determined to bring down George Bush.

This week we have been treated to Moore doing what he does best, a lumbering rampage, at the Cannes film festival. Not for the first time, corporate America has played straight into his hands. Disney has decided not to distribute Moore’s new film, Fahrenheit 9/11, a documentary about Bush and the war, despite spending $6m on it through its Miramax division. Moore is crying censorship, and complaining that Disney’s Michael Eisner told his agent that he did not want to anger Jeb Bush, the governor of Florida, because tax breaks worth many millions of dollars were at stake.

The resulting row has made headlines round the world, thrown Disney on the defensive and given Moore yet another cause connected to a traditional American issue - free speech. The New York Times accused Disney of craven censorship and awarded the company “the gold medal for cowardice”. According to film critics who have seen it, the movie makes strong points about links between the Bin Laden and Bush families, and about US behaviour in Iraq. It is not as damaging as the torture pictures from Abu Ghraib: yet, thanks to Disney, it has taken the Moore phenomenon to a new level. He is entirely serious in thinking that he can tilt the balance in middle America against Bush in the coming election. Many American conservatives are worried he may be right.

So is Moore a new kind of politician? Is he a way forward that conventional politics has not fully grasped? Certainly, in an age when politicians routinely whinge about the media without being able to use it effectively, he has a bundle of lessons for modern democrats.

The first and easiest is the power of humour. Moore became known here via his skewering of greedy corporate bosses on his television series TV Nation, and his polemical books, such as Stupid White Men. He may be angry, but stunts and gags abound. A good example of his style was his Oscar acceptance speech for his anti-gun film Bowling for Columbine; in it he broke all protocol by attacking Bush for the Iraq war and concluded: “Shame on you Bush: any time you’ve got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up.”

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Hey PUBES, lighten up! It’s not as damaging as last week’s news. Remember that.

funny thing is moore lied and manufactured the whole controversy as a publicity stunt to get his movie more attention. haha. that’s funny. he lies to get media attention? i’m dying over here. :unamused:

You are so right Alien:

Haha it’s all a joke. I am sure Michael Moore will understand when a conservative group gets together and makes a film of him and his ridiculous FAT life using the same creative approach to editing. Hahahaha I am sure that he will be the first to find it so DROLL so AMUSING and even TRES AMUSANT!!! Oh how we laughed. hahaha about the time that Michael Moore admitted that he was just a fat fraud. haha of course he was talking about someone else rather than himself but what’s a little cut and paste among friends hahahahahahaahah

[quote=“fred smith”]You are so right Alien:

Haha it’s all a joke. I am sure Michael Moore will understand when a conservative group gets together and makes a film of him and his ridiculous FAT life using the same creative approach to editing. Hahahaha I am sure that he will be the first to find it so DROLL so AMUSING and even TRES AMUSANT!!! Oh how we laughed. hahaha about the time that Michael Moore admitted that he was just a fat fraud. haha of course he was talking about someone else rather than himself but what’s a little cut and paste among friends hahahahahahaahah[/quote]

You sound a bit manic. You alright?
Just remember, since Moore is NOT a politician, the rules don’t apply.
hahahhahahaahahhahahahahahaahahhahahahahahaha!!!
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Alien:

Interesting view of when the rules apply. So since Moore is not a politician the rules of slander and fraud and plagiarism do not exist? Interesting. Score another huge intellectual and ethical victory for your line of argument. Yup. That’s how the conservative posters shut out voices like yours on this forum. We merely repeat what you say and let others take a good hard look at the kind of views that you espouse. You are an intellectual lightweight even though you are not a natural blonde. Grr Grr Grr. Bring it on Alien. hahah

[quote=“fred smith”]Alien:

Interesting view of when the rules apply. So since Moore is not a politician the rules of slander and fraud and plagiarism do not exist? Interesting. Score another huge intellectual and ethical victory for your line of argument. [/quote]

Hey, you sausage roll, he’s not been sued yet, now, has he? Why?

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Glad you think you’re such an intellectual powerhouse. Most others we know believe you’re a certifiable lunatic.

Blueface already posted a link showing that he has and that he has paid. Sorry. You lose again. Back to square 1. But I am sure that he was wrongfully punished by a republican judge.

Yup! Must have been.

From the Onion

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Interesting isn’t it?

I mean here are the world’s most sophisticated, glamorous, Democratic voting people who are against all sorts of bad things cheering Moore’s movie for 20 minutes. Reminds me of Hitler’s cheering masses who were equally taken in by his ahem strong stage presence and skillful manipulation of the facts. So who’s the closer to fascism here? Moore’s followers or those who scorn him? Hmmm. Interesting point don’t you think Alien. You are just the kind of simple mind that would have been dutifuly outraged about the Jews during Hitler’s reign. Switch Jew for Republican and look at your footstomping sanctimonious protests all based on nary a fact. Where is your proof that the patriot act has denied you of your rights? Where is the proof that the Jews were responsible for losing WWI. Ah but … the Republicans are the truly brainwashed? Sound plausible to anyone else?

Meanwhile those of us who are targeting Islamofascism are treated like brainwashed puppets when correct me if the facts are not wrong.

Our nation has been repeatedly targeted by terrorists from one group, which one? Oh gee? The nations of said region are a collection of dysfunctional regimes that do not respect human rights, torture their people and send vast streams of migrants overseas looking for better lives.So we must be the ones who have been brainwashed because it is only “a few” people “hiding behind the skirts” of what is a “religion of peace.” Right?

Fred Smith ranted

At the awards ceremony that wrapped up the 57th Cannes Film Festival on Saturday night, the jury gave “Fahrenheit 9/11,” Michael Moore’s stinging critique of the Bush administration’s foreign policies, the Palme d’Or, the festival’s top prize and one of the most coveted honors in international cinema. . .

Mr. Tarantino had assured him that the political message of “Fahrenheit 9/11” did not influence the jury’s decision. “On this jury we have different politics,” he quoted Mr. Tarantino as saying. It is also a film financed by Miramax, which distributes Mr. Tarantino’s movies.

Mr. Moore noted that four of the nine jurors were American: Mr. Tarantino, Kathleen Turner, the director Jerry Schatzberg, and the Haitian-born novelist Edwidge Danticat. “I fully expect the Fox News Channel and other right-wing media to portray this as an award from the French,” Mr. Moore said. Only one juror, the actress Emanuelle B

[quote]At the awards ceremony that wrapped up the 57th Cannes Film Festival on Saturday night, the jury gave “Fahrenheit 9/11,” Michael Moore’s stinging critique of the Bush administration’s foreign policies, the Palme d’Or, the festival’s top prize and one of the most coveted honors in international cinema. . .

Mr. Tarantino had assured him that the political message of “Fahrenheit 9/11” did not influence the jury’s decision.[/quote]

I find that VERY difficult to believe.

Christopher Hitchens on Michael Moore:

“But speaking here in my capacity as a polished, sophisticated European as well, it seems to me the laugh here is on the polished, sophisticated Europeans. They think Americans are fat, vulgar, greedy, stupid, ambitious and ignorant and so on. And they’ve taken as their own, as their representative American, someone who actually embodies all of those qualities.”

lol. the cannes film festival is as partisan in its politics as a nra convention.