http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_re/rel_religious_america
Is America finally coming up to speed with the rest of the civilised world?
[quote=“GuyInTaiwan”]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_re/rel_religious_america
Is America finally coming up to speed with the rest of the civilised world?[/quote]
They are right behind Turkey.
[quote=“GuyInTaiwan”]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_re/rel_religious_america
Is America finally coming up to speed with the rest of the civilised world?[/quote]
Interesting. Everything else I’ve seen is that church attendance is up.
MSNBC Church Attendance Up but Collections Aren’t
But wait, it’s in Canada too! Tough times in Calgary prompt many to seek solace in faith
[quote]
Church attendance is on the rise at the First Alliance Church of Calgary, and the economy weighs on the minds of many parishioners, said its senior pastor.
This falls in line with reports that churches across North America and Europe have seen a rise in patrons in the wake of the economic downturn.[/quote]
England even!
Rise in church congregation attendance down to economy
[quote]Congregations around the country have seen an influx of parishioners, with church elders believing the economic downturn has meant people are rethinking their values.
Back to Church Sunday, an annual service in September where members of the church are encouraged to invite a friend to a service, attracted 37,000 new congregants this year, almost twice the number who attended in 2007.[/quote]
Imagine no reliegion it’s easy if you try.
Turkey is crazy.
A Turkish Creationist with Way Too Much Influence
Sci/Tech | Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 7:28:04 pm PDT
The Wall Street Journal has an article on wacko Islamic creationist Harun Yahya, aka Adnan Oktar, and his disturbing progress in promoting his anti-science nonsense in Turkey: An Islamic Creationist Stirs a New Kind of Darwinian Struggle.
ISTANBUL — As scientists around the world celebrate the 150th anniversary of Charles Darwin’s seminal work on evolution, Adnan Oktar, a college dropout turned theorist of Islamic creationism, is working on the fifth volume of a 14-part masterwork that he says will bury Darwinism once and for all.
“Darwin and his theory are dead,” says Mr. Oktar, founder and honorary president of the Science Research Foundation, an Istanbul outfit dedicated to debunking the Victorian-era English naturalist. Darwin, says his 52-year-old Turkish scourge, is “Satan’s biggest trick on humanity.”
Mr. Oktar, who briefly studied interior design, hasn’t had much success swaying scientists with the weight of his research. “He is a complete and utter ignoramus,” says Richard Dawkins, an evolutionary biologist and Oxford University professor.
The physical weight of Mr. Oktar’s work, however, is considerable. Each volume of his anti-Darwin magnum opus, “Atlas of Creation,” weighs more than 13 pounds. Also weighing in on his side are very aggressive lawyers. They’ve repeatedly gone to court in Turkey to silence critics whom Mr. Oktar accuses of spreading “lies and insults.” Scores of Web sites have been banned at his behest.
Europeans will create a rod for their own backs letting Turkey into the E.U., and Jan Sobieski would roll over in his grave.
[quote=“lbksig”][quote=“GuyInTaiwan”]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_re/rel_religious_america
Is America finally coming up to speed with the rest of the civilised world?[/quote]
Interesting. Everything else I’ve seen is that church attendance is up.
MSNBC Church Attendance Up but Collections Aren’t
But wait, it’s in Canada too! Tough times in Calgary prompt many to seek solace in faith
[quote]
Church attendance is on the rise at the First Alliance Church of Calgary, and the economy weighs on the minds of many parishioners, said its senior pastor.
This falls in line with reports that churches across North America and Europe have seen a rise in patrons in the wake of the economic downturn.[/quote]
England even!
Rise in church congregation attendance down to economy
[quote]Congregations around the country have seen an influx of parishioners, with church elders believing the economic downturn has meant people are rethinking their values.
Back to Church Sunday, an annual service in September where members of the church are encouraged to invite a friend to a service, attracted 37,000 new congregants this year, almost twice the number who attended in 2007.[/quote][/quote]
Take heart, about 45% of Israeli citizens consider themselves “secular”. :discodance:
Turkey is part of Europe.
Turkey is part of Europe.[/quote]
Oooh, there’s a controversial statement. Regardless of whether they’re part of Europe, they’re not part of the EU. The reasons for this are as much religious, historical, and political as they are economic (perhaps more so).
Turkey is part of Europe.[/quote]
Only in the sense that one small part of it is geographically in Europe, and it certainly isn’t in the European Club, as has been pointed out.
Turkey is part of Europe.[/quote]
Oooh, there’s a controversial statement. Regardless of whether they’re part of Europe, they’re not part of the EU. The reasons for this are as much religious, historical, and political as they are economic (perhaps more so).[/quote]
Aside from letting 71 million Muslims into the E.U., Turkey would also become the second most populous country in the E.U. (second only to Germany). I would say France and Britain would have a bit to say about that, not to mention Germany (which would probably be overtaken within a generation), not to mention a whole bunch of smaller countries.
Additionally, it’s very important that Turkey is predominantly in Asia. Look at the countries Turkey borders, and the kinds of borders they have (especially to the east, which is very mountainous). Immigration would be virtually impossible to control. They might as well just completely open their borders. Furthermore, many of those countries Turkey borders are quite unstable (Iraq), and Turkey has its own issues with Kurds. All of those things would create massive headaches for the rest of Europe. The E.U. needs to be contained to Europe.