It now has a oil leak and the rear tire has become a slicks.
Since I have to open the engine to change the gasket it would probartly make sence to change the bearings at the same time, witch I’m not to eager to trust the local mecanic with. Could do it myself, but I have no place to do it.
It’s really a pice off crap making lots off noice from bodywork that is lose.
It also has mecanical brakes and not hydraulic like the new ones do.
Is this the right time to try to get 4000 for it and get a new scooter with hydraulic brakes and a more hi tec engine witch don’t leak?
I spent 200 on refill off oil the last 6-8 week’s
And if I do stick with the old one and change tires what tire should I go for? My gues tire don’t really mather on a scooter since the lean angle is not exstrem befour parts of the scooter toutch the ground.
In my opinion, once a scooter starts to crap out after a long service life, it’s time for a change. Ok, lots of people will have varying opinions but I would just go out and buy a brand new machine. For me, safety and reliability are paramount. Many just can’t fathom spending 50k~60K for a new scooter when there are 20k~30K machines out there…and this depends on if you have the time, tools and place to do your own work…Personally, a new scooter is as simple as “ride it, have it serviced every 1000km and wash it”…plus you’ll enjoy a nice ride as it’s hard to beat the feeling of a new vehicle… Most of the current crop of scooters have better lights, brakes, engines, suspensions (depending on your weight),build quality, performance and warranty…Sell what’s left of your scooter for 4k and go shopping for a new one…you won’t regret it.
Yeah, get rid of it. Get something with disk brakes and no leaks. Change the oil every 1000 k’s and have a few years of trouble free service. no point to mess around with old crap when newer crap is less trouble.
[quote=“Captain Stag”]Most of the current crop of scooters have better lights, brakes, engines, suspensions (depending on your weight),build quality, performance and warranty…Sell what’s left of your scooter for 4k and go shopping for a new one…you won’t regret it.
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I would not mind bether brakes, but can suspension on a scooter be good? Those thiny weel’s just kill my kidneys when they get into holes. Can suspension do mutch diference?
I would prefere to go for a motorbike with larger diameter on the rims, but I would not be allowed to.
Yes I defently want hydraulic and disk’s. Mecanical drum brakes suck :raspberry:
Tighten the wires one day and only a few days later the front brake would not loock even if you where driving on ice. :fume:
How about 4V scooter? is it anny point at all? the perfect airspeed for a engine is about 80m/s and by ading two more valves this airspeed would just result in that max power and max torque will ocour at a higher RPM. On multi cylinder configuration high reving engines I can see the point, but on singel cylinder scooters no.
Dos injection justefy the extra cost? Or will I nead to ride it for 10 years to do that?
worth the extra hp or is it milage that make it worth it?
What about injection? is it worth the extra cost or will we newer get the money back in reduced milage? it’s 6k extra and called FI right?
what is the price range on 125cc 4 valve injection scooters?
I have e-mailed the arguments to my bether half and asked if we should fix it, replace it or ride it until we got saved up money so we don’t nead to be broke for too long after we bought it.
EDIT:
Just went to the local dealer and he told me a new tire would be 500NT. Fix the oil leak and have the bearings replaced (I think it’s plain stupid to split a old engine and not change the bearings at the same time) maybe 4000NT. A new yamaha would cost me 58000.
He did not want to promise me more then 1000-2000 for the old one.
So if I sold it off instead of fixing it I would have 5500NT and that would be 10% off the price of the new one. If I did fix the old one it would still be old and I will have no warenty. and I would stil have mecanicalactivated drum brakes and bad lights and worse fuel consumption.
I know what I want, but I got to sort things out with the boss(gf)
[quote=“Stian”]worth the extra hp or is it milage that make it worth it?[/quote]The extra power. Depends whether you think it’s worth it or not. But quite a few of the recent 125cc scooters have 4-valve engines, so if you like a scooter and it happens to be one of those, why not go for it.
[quote=“Stian”]What about injection? is it worth the extra cost or will we newer get the money back in reduced milage?[/quote]A bit more fuel efficient and cleaner too. But it would probably take you quite a while to get the money back. So again, if you like a scooter and it happens to have FI, then go for it.
[quote=“Stian”]…it’s 6k extra and called FI right?[/quote]Are you talking about the Yamaha Cygnus? There are some good threads on that – do a search. Yes I think there’s about a 6k difference between the carburetted and FI versions. Try to avoid the version that has TPS (throttle position sensor), though. Apparently not so good for a technical reason that Redwagon explained very clearly to me once but which I have now forgotten.
I don’t like scooters at all, but a CBR is out off the question
I would rather have my old MB-50 than a scooter.
We tok the decition last night not to spend anny money on the motorbike. We will just refil oil (3dl a week) and just call the rear tire a racing slicks and buy a brand new scooter 50-60k in the first 3 months next year. We just used 110000NT on tickets so we can spend xmass with my parents
[quote=“Stian”]He did not want to promise me more then 1000-2000 for the old one.
So if I sold it off instead of fixing it I would have 5500NT and that would be 10% off the price of the new one. If I did fix the old one it would still be old and I will have no warenty. and I would stil have mecanicalactivated drum brakes and bad lights and worse fuel consumption.[/quote]
I think you made the right choice… I recently decided to scrap a scooter that was sitting in my basement most of the time because every time I fixed one problem a new one would spring up. It bugged me because I bought it for NT$12k when I first arrived in Taichung and was desperate. I’ve put in over NT$15k since and it still runs like shit… kills you when you think a brand new cheapo scooter runs for less than 40k but you live and learn. It has a brand new fuel pump, tyres and various other bits so I’ve salvaged them and at least feel like I got a few thousand worth in parts back out of it.
As for buying new… apart from the aforementioned scooter bought in desperation I’ve really had no problem whatsoever with second hand vehicles. I have some very limited mechanical ability to spot major problems and fix minor ones but even that seems to have got me safely through 10+ bikes and an SUV. I have one old-ass Yamaha scooter that was NT$13,000 and has already made good for over a year and ~30,000km of service (excluding the tens of thousands that were already on it).
When shopping around I did the maths and thought… so if I have 30,000km and a year in mind as a conservative estimate of how long the thing will comfortably last, that means an NT$60k scooter would have to give me 140,000km and 4 1/2 years to get the same value. Sure, riding a new machine is nice but it’s also fun how I can quite happily change my scooters every 12 months with virtually no depreciation. I guess it all just comes down to personal preference and how much time you like wasting in your garage.
