I moved my house to another place to escape my gf (let’s say ex-gf) but she found my address and came to my door at 2 a.m., crying, etc …
So I moved again, but this time I took really care to not let anybody know where I was going (even my close friends still don’t know where I live). I did notice the secretary of my office that I moved out again and she asked me my new address, which I didn’t give. She told me that I need to notify the government about my new address, I told her to tell them that my new address is the one of the company but she still insist and asked my boss to transmit the request (I learned that the next time I move out, I notify nobody about it).
I wonder if it is really an obligation for me to give my new address to the government. I plan to not listen the secretary and never give it, I don’t want anybody to knock my door during the night again and do crazy things. Legally, what is the risk of this ?
[quote=“karmaGfa”]I moved my house to another place to escape my gf (let’s say ex-gf) but she found my address and came to my door at 2 a.m., crying, etc …
So I moved again, but this time I took really care to not let anybody know where I was going (even my close friends still don’t know where I live). I did notice the secretary of my office that I moved out again and she asked me my new address, which I didn’t give. She told me that I need to notify the government about my new address, I told her to tell them that my new address is the one of the company but she still insist and asked my boss to transmit the request (I learned that the next time I move out, I notify nobody about it).
I wonder if it is really an obligation for me to give my new address to the government. I plan to not listen the secretary and never give it, I don’t want anybody to knock my door during the night again and do crazy things. Legally, what is the risk of this ?[/quote]
Be a man and get rid of your ex-girlfriend. Don’t make new problems if you didn’t fix the others.
Legal obligation. The CLA (and FAP) needs to know and the company is right to insist to comply with their foreign employee reporting requirements. Just tell your company secretary not to give out information to any one, particularly said ex-gf.
I moved and had to change my address with the government. As far as I know, you have to do this immediately. There is no good reason to withold your address from your employer and the government when you are a non-citizen resident in a foreign country (and I can’t think of any good reason to do this in one’s home country either). It’s asking for trouble. As Cartman said, you can instruct your employer to not give out this information to anyone. I seriously doubt they are the source of the leak that resulted in your gf finding you.
There was a case a few years ago where a person was deported for not notifying the FAP of their change of address in the mandated 30 days.
That was a result of a business dispute.
It doesn
[quote=“Eric W. Lier”]There was a case a few years ago where a person was deported for not notifying the FAP of their change of address in the mandated 30 days.
That was a result of a business dispute.
It doesn
Foreign nationals are prohibited from getting legal representation in Taiwan.
Extra Judicial Deportation is a non judicial punishment not allowed or prohibited by the ROC constitution.
Thus no legal representation is afforded by the police because there is no hearing mandated.
To get a hearing “foreigners” must hire an ROC lawyer unless of course they are a lawyer who has excellent ability in traditional Chinese and ROC law.
The lawyer will ask for 150,000 to 300,000 as a retainer. Court cost must also be paid up front.
At the same time, as soon as a “foreigner’s” deportation order is issued foreign nationals are presumed guilty and barred from employment or income.
“Foreigners” must pay for their own lawyer but the Taiwan government has prohibited them from earning an income to pay for the lawyer.
The Taiwan legal Aid foundation has been allowed by the government of Taiwan to assist
[quote=“Eric W. Lier”]Foreign nationals are prohibited from getting legal representation in Taiwan.
To get a hearing “foreigners” must hire an ROC lawyer unless of course they are a lawyer who has excellent ability in traditional Chinese and ROC law.[/quote]
[quote]Foreign nationals are not allowed to attend their own trial!
Deportation is mandated 10 to 30 days after the decree is made by the police. If you do no leave voluntarily, you will be arrested and a forced deportation is implemented.
It takes two to six months to have a trial date set, if the victim is lucky.
The government will deport “foreign nationals” so as to prohibit “foreigners” from attending their own deportation trial that they must pay for but have no money to do so.
You are right of course, it is :loco:, but that is the state of human rights on Taiwan for over a half a million of it’s “foreign” residents.[/quote]
How would you know?
Are you a foreigner?
Have you ever been deported?
Have you ever assisted anyone who has been deported in Taiwan?
I am or have done all of those and can attest to the facts I have stated above as have numerous lawyers, judges and experts in the field of human rights.
Why do you ask if I am a foreigner when you know me to be so. I’m also an ROC national as well.
I ran an immigration consultancy helping people both leave Taiwan and come to it. I’ve processed thousands of visa applications. Why would I get myself deported when I know what the rules are?
That’s easily answered, don’t break the law. Ignorance is no excuse. The people getting ARC’s are adults, so let them go and find out what the laws are from the FAP.
Nearly all of the people who I know who have overstayed have done so deliberately. It hasn’t been by a few days, it’s usually a few months and sometimes several years.
If you live in Xindian then you should go to the Taipei County Foreign Affairs Police Office in Panqiao.
You are legally obliged to notify your local FAP if you change address, and there have been stories of people being contacted by the FAP to have their details checked, (although obviously there aren’t many stories of what happens when you have given false details.)
The important thing to remember if you are thinking about not updating your address is that the address on your ARC can affect important administrative tasks while in Taiwan. When it comes time to renew or make changes to your ARC you’ll have to go to the FAP dictated by your ARC address, and there have been reports of people having to produce a lease for the address registered on their ARC before they were given an extension. Similarly the tax office you go to to file your taxes depends on your ARC address, and the rebate check will be sent to that address.
If you have a driver’s license and register a vehicle, notification of parking or speeding fines will be sent to the address registered (which should be your ARC address). If these are not paid promptly they get doubled after a set time limit and so become expensive very quickly.
Finally, it would be logical to assume that if you tried to apply for some sort of service where you have to give a copy of your ARC, e.g. phone line, internet connection, cell phone contract…, at an address that didn’t match the one on your ARC, it would be declined. In actual fact I’ve not had these problems, but this is Taiwan, so you can’t say what will happen next time.