Interesting, does this mean that going straight to TECO is the cheapest and fastest way for translations then? If so, this would save people a lot of frustration.
Not sure why, but my TECO made me get my health certificate stamped by the hospital twice (once on the top left, and once across the picture) AND then notarized without the sworn statement.
It does seem like different TECOs operate with different rules, and perhaps even different employees within the same TECO operate differently as well
Anyone in my situation where we donāt have extended relatives in Taiwan?
I believe having a proof of address (being added to someoneās HHR) is needed to get å®å± at MIS and also the National ID at HHRO.
Unfortunately, I found out the last of my relatives passed away.
What are the options to being added to someoneās HHR with no family connection in Taiwan?
What I was thinking was
Rent a property from a landlord and asked to be added to the propertyās HHR (is this allowed? I saw posts about this but I thought you canāt be added to an address before getting an ID).
Maybe make some friends and ask me. Though, being a shy girl never helps in this situation
Anyway I can work with a real estate agency and they can add me onto one of their propertiesā HHR?
If you want to move here, make sure to ask about whether you can establish HHR at the apartment and make it a condition of agreeing to the lease. It maybe helps to work with a real estate agent because they can address the landlordās worries about it affecting their taxes (in theory it shouldnāt). Most landlords donāt proactively allow you to establish/move HHR there, but many would probably be willing once you address their tax concerns.
If you donāt plan on living here, you can look for a landlord who is only renting out the address for HHR, like by trying a search for ę¶ē± on 591.com.tw and sorting by the cheapest total rent. They generally ask for a yearās worth of rent upfront and let you borrow the property tax bill that you need to establish HHR. After the lease is up, theyāll move your HHR to the local HRO, but that means you can keep HHR without having to pay rent.
What are some reputable places to find a real estate agent that will help me find a rental like this? Any good reputation agencies in Taiwan I should be aware of?
I was confused with this part, since I thought Taiwanese NWOHR cannot establish HHR but can only join someone elseās HHR (like a friend or relative).
Is it possible to just create my own ē¬ē«ę·? (I believe thatās what it is called, but I read one of the requirements is having an IDā¦which I do not have until I get HHR.
in reality, does me getting onto the landlordās HHR give him or her more taxes?
I am not fluent in Mandarin but using google translate I also found this article that said I could go to the HHR and register myself at the property even without the landlords permission, but I am sure that might cause an argument ā¦
Youāre getting the timeline mixed up. You obtain your ID and establish HHR at the same time.
To get an ID and establish HHR, you need to be living somewhere in Taiwan, and obtain proof that you live there (a notarized rental agreement, utilities bills, etc.).
Bring your proof of address and your NIA-issued Residence Certificate to the HHR office to establish HHR and obtain an ID at the same time.
Yes. You are legally required to establish HHR at your actual place of residence. Your landlord is prohibited from stopping you. However, they may be able to stop you by not notarizing your rental agreement. If thatās the case, you can ask your HHR office what alternatives there are to prove you live there. Sometimes they will send someone to knock on your door and physically check that you live at your address.
Itās best to just find a landlord that is willing to add you to their HHR. Ask them to accompany you to the notary to get your rental contract notarized. The alternative is to ask them to accompany you to the HHR office directly on the day that you wish to obtain your ID, and they can add you to their household at the same time that you are getting your ID.
What would be the minimum number of days the rental agreement must be? Can it just be 30 days or does it have to be 6 months or 1 year?
And for the clarification, am I joining the landlords HHR or the landlords propertyās HHR (e.g. if he had multiple properties I assume I will just join the HHR of the property I am renting).
Also, how much extra of a premium do you think I would have to pay for a landlord to agree to notarizing the rental agreement?
This makes now, so I get them at the same time (HHR isnāt required to get å®å± č which makes sense).
In your opinion what would be the shortest and cost effective approach to finding a property, getting the rental contact notarized and the utility bill proof? Technically would it be possible to rent a cheap room within an apartment in rural Taiwan?
When applying for a å®å± č at NIA and later going to HRO to åčØę¶ē±, there are no restrictions on whether you establish a ēØē«ę¶ or join an existing household. In general, naturalized citizens establishing HHR for the first time (åčØę¶ē±) or Hongkongers/Macanese who å®å± will set up a ēØē«ę¶ unless they are married to a Taiwanese citizen. So, itās a relatively common thing.
Notarizing the lease isnāt necessary. The most common way of proving that you have permission to establish HHR čØę¶ē± at an address is by borrowing the property tax bill. However, a notarized lease is an alternative if you prefer, and at least some cities theoretically have an option for an inspection of the property to show that you live there if the landlord refuses permission to notarize the lease or let you borrow the property tax bill.
Thatās not something governed by the HHR office. Thatās between you and your landlord.
There is no such distinction. Everyone in Taiwan only has one HHR which is supposed to be tied to where they physically sleep at night. If you and your landlord live in the same apartment, then thatās where their HHR is. If they live somewhere else, then their HHR is somewhere else.
Your landlord can only add you to their HHR if the two of you live together. If you rent alone, then youāll have to set up your own HHR at that address with utilities bills, notarized rental agreement, property tax bill, etc.
Yes.
Make a friend in Taiwan. Anybody. Then ask them to do you a favor and accompany you when you get your ID to add you to their HHR. You donāt actually have to move in with them. Nobody will know.
As for searching for a reputable landlord who is willing to let you use the address for HHR purposes only, I would just use sites like 591. There is an element of quality assurance just in that you would pay the rent, sign the lease and get the property tax bill to borrow all at the same time.
Maybe when you do sit down to pay for the lease, you could verify that they are the property owner by doing a search on local property records? Iām not exactly sure.
I think she means joining the landlordās ę¶. And the answer is now. You can have multiple ę¶ at the same address. So, even if the landlord has HHR at that address, you would still establish a ēØē«ę¶.
O, and btw, for adult NWOHR with relatives establishing HHR, while they could be in the same ę¶ with their parents, itās usually best to establish a ēØē«ę¶ under their own name at the same address. Local Taiwanese born with HHR also will sometimes establish a ēØē«ę¶ at their home address at some point once they are adults so that they donāt have to rely on one of their parents (usually the father) as ę¶é· to handle a couple administrative things that only a ę¶é· can do.
Thatās an idea I am considering! But wonāt the friend need to provide the property tax bill and proof that they pay utilities? (Is this complicated for them to find)?
And I assume Iām joining their HHR, not establishing ēØē«ę¶ at their addressās
Also, for setting up my own HHR (ēØē«ę¶)ļ¼so the main thing that is stopping me is getting the landlord from notarizing the lease? If he or she did, my own HHR would be acceptable for getting the ID card I assume?
If your friend is Taiwanese then they will already have HHR tied to one address or another. Just have them add you to that address. Obviously donāt pick someone who is a NWOHR and hasnāt yet established HHR themselves.
Thatās up to you and your friend. Either way works.
Correct. And it doesnāt have to be a ēØē«ę¶. Thatās up to you and your landlord. Either way works.
I went on 591 and saw a few properties at 1000NTD offering å „ę¶ē±. Do you think this price is reasonable? Also, I assume after laying the landlord, it is just an āaddressā vs. an actual place to live.
And, what is āproperty tax billā in Mandarin, I looked it up online and it came out as č²”ē¢ēØ ę³ę”, but not sure if this is the term used in TW.
I think you are misunderstanding the concept of ę¶. It is translated as āhousehold,ā but everyone in the same ę¶ must be related. Everyone is listed in relation to the ę¶é· (like as wife, mother, son, etc.)
For roommates establishing or moving HHR to the same address, they would definitely be in separate ę¶ at the same address. There is no way for you to join your friendās ę¶ unless you get married.
What I think @user86 means is that you find a Taiwanese friend who is a property owner and is willing to let you borrow the property tax bill, etc.
I donāt think this is true. You can be established under someone elseās ę¶ as a āroommateā or even a āvisitorā if you wish. Or you can just establish your own ę¶ and have zero relations with the other person.
Anyway, this side discussion on ēØē«ę¶ is neither here nor there. Itās not required to get an ID.
