How long does the residency certificate last from NIA? I’m imagining a scenario where I get the cert but unable to find someone to add me to their HHR or unable to find a rental. Is there a limbo where someone can have the certificate but no HHR and therefore no ID ?
Don’t quote me on this, but from my memory you have 30 days.
Why not just wait until you’ve secured an apartment before obtaining your residency certificate? Obtaining it early doesn’t really benefit you in any way.
I’m looking to secure my full citizenship right now with the favorable 2024 law, and before SHTF between China and Taiwan which may put a pause on this whole program. So not ready to move there yet, but if I have to lease a cheap apt to get my HHR then I’ll do it.
You can do that now, but what I’m saying is you don’t have to do step 2 before doing step 1 below. So your process should be:
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Rent a cheap apartment (for a month or whatever) and obtain all the necessary proof that you live there.
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Apply for your residency certificate
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Upon receiving your residency certificate a week later, take it to the HHR office (along with your proof of address obtained in step 1) to get an ID.
If shit hits the fan with China, there is no guarantee that your residency certificate will still be valid even if there is no expiration date.
Mine also says 30 days, but I also don’t really see a point to going through all this bureaucracy and not finishing the process.
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It’s not that I am purposely not trying to finish the process. I’m considering the possibility that I won’t be able to rent something to satisfy the HHR requirements. I have no idea where to start in renting a place in Taipei.
Honestly, you best option is to just make a friend in Taiwan who is the head of their household (or whose parents are), who will let you be added to their HHR for the purpose of getting your ID. Nobody needs to know that you don’t actually live there. This way you bypass the requirement of obtaining proof of address.
They can then remove you as soon as you obtain your ID and leave Taiwan. You can even offer to pay someone for the inconvenience.
I’m assuming that means $1000/month “rent” for the duration of time that you remain on their HHR? So $12k to remain on their HHR for a year? You literally only need to be added for one day. As soon as you obtain your ID you can leave Taiwan the next day, and your HHR will be removed from that address.
$12k is unreasonable for 30 minutes of their time for you to be added to their HHR for one day.
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On 591, there was a description and it was giving different prices for different months (minimum 3 months to 6months). I might reach out to them and see what they say
I do hope the price is cheaper as I do not need it for more than a month (just technically a day)
Does anyone know what happens if the parents were married abroad (not in Taiwan)?
I came across an ABT’s Blog that mentions the process is very complex, if parents were married abroad, he said he needed POA from parents to register their marriage in Taiwan…
Wording below! Making me nervous… 
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If your Parents did not Register their Marriage in Taiwan:
For some reason Taiwan really cares about your parents’ marriage even if one of your parents has Taiwanese citizenship, this is what you need to do:
– Have your parents’ U.S. marriage license certified by your local TECO office (the office actually closest to where your parents were married, do this before you leave the U.S.)
– Have the TECO certified marriage license translated and notarized, you can get this done in Taiwan (get 2 copies because you will need both later)
-If a parent does not have a Chinese name, you will need to have one prepared on hand
– Your Taiwanese parent then needs to take the final version of the marriage license, and printed copies of your parents’ passport(s) and probably a copy of your birth certificate to the Household Registration Office under which your Taiwanese parent was registered under and register their marriage in Taiwan
-If your Taiwanese parent is not in Taiwan, then they need to submit a form at your TECO office to give you power of attorney so you can personally submit their registration of marriage in Taiwan (see above and bring your passports); the TECO approved form actually needs to be physically sent to you just like all the other TECO approved forms, do this before you leave the U.S.
After registration they will give you a certified HRO document, you will need this for your TARC application. Registration will be done the same day, it took 1.5 hours for me. You will get back your parents’ original TECO certified marriage license. You will need this later.“
Source: https://viciousswirl.com/blog/
Is there rules written in Mandarin on the documents required for the 戶長 to bring to HRRO if we go together? Or a checklist that details the requirements?
I’m going to come out my shell and make some friends but I’m not sure if they will trust a gal with broken mandarin on the rules or if there are tax implications 
Ok, so $1000 times 3 months is pretty reasonable, I’d say. That’s about $100 USD.
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They just need to bring their ID and name chop.
Yes, all correct. You’ll need to do all of that.
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For the POA, the blog writer wrote that he even needed it to be TECO authenticated.
Is this also necessary? I initially thought maybe a POA would be enough, but now I may need to go contact TECO again for POA authentication for registering my parents marriage.
No need. Only official government documents issued by foreign countries need to be authenticated by the TECO in that country.
The POA you sign will be a form/template issued by Taiwan.
I will need to see if there is an official Taiwan Power of Attorney, I don’t want NIA sending me back
The blog writer even mention he needed “the TECO certified marriage license translated and notarized, you can get this done in Taiwan (get 2 copies because you will need both later)”
Is the translation needed too? I assume the translated marriage certificate can be notarized by me in Taiwan (to skip TECO)?
Or would my father need to notarize these and then get them TECO authenticated?
The blog writer also mentions the need for a POA to get the parent’s household registration, but I assume if I find a Taiwanese POA form, the TECO authentication is not needed.
Found a Taiwan POA Form, would this do?
I guess I would need my dad’s signature (he doesn’t have a name stamp anymore). The only caveat is that the POA form states 委託人 requires a National ID number…which I don’t have yet.
https://www.ris.gov.tw/documents/data/2/30376e94-6bc1-45e3-bcd8-537a11d1b18a.pdf
Documents requested by an agency in Taiwan that are not in Chinese must be translated. Documents that are only requested by TECO may be in either Chinese or English.
Yes, as long as you have the POA.
If you have a POA, then your father shouldn’t need to do a thing.
You need to fill out a POA form provided by the HHR office. No authentication required. This has nothing to do with TECO.
Yes.
No need. Just use the number of whatever identification document you will be using while in Taiwan. I assume you will be in Taiwan as a tourist at that time, so you should use your passport number.
Ok, I thought I would need to enter Taiwan with my NWOHR passport (which lacks the ID number) vs. my US one.
In total, it looks like I need POA for two things since my parents were married outside of Taiwan
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Marriage certificate registration in Taiwan (i need to translate with Google translate, get it notarized), and use POA form to register the marriage in Taiwan for my dad.
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Father’s Household Registration - Use POA form to get my dad’s HHR (I heard it is a card?).