Northern Taiwan (SAR)

[quote=“dan2006”]

The cherry is the best part… giggity giggity goo.[/quote]

you mean you only want the cherry? or are you gonna have the rest of the sundae as well?

(as in the PRC getting a Northern Taiwan SAR first, then getting the rest of Taiwan later?)

I thought the OP’s point was that China would get Northern Taiwan SAR in exchange for recognizing Republic of Taiwan?[/quote]

Yes, this is true. You can’t understand Northern Taiwan (SAR) with the same goggles you face today’s ‘Status Quo’ arguments. blah blah blah. There’s plenty of threads about ‘current’ political positions and motives, but if you look back at the past 18 years, the vector is moving in the direction of the mainland. You can blame the KMT and it’s current leader, but the end game, which there will eventually be one, has never been proposed.

I do not believe the Chinese 5 star flag will ever fly peacefully over the island of Taiwan. It could however, over Northern Taiwan (SAR)

First of all, neither of these groups have a 10 billion dollar per year modern military. If you’ve followed this thread, you’ve read that the Republic of Taiwan will likely be forged through a military coup. Nothing gets done in this world without a loaded gun and a finger on a trigger pointing at something.
Following years of political stratification, seeing the true identity of free and independent Taiwan shifting south of Taipei, there will come a tipping point, and the military will stage a coup. One example could be during high profile reunification talks on the mainland. China will be forced by the dire circumstances to negotiate peace terms, or face a pacific war.

With whom you ask? The USA?

sort of. In more likelihood it would be Japan. Japan, Korea and the USA will not allow Taiwan to be absorbed by China. Not without a fight. You mustn’t forget, Taiwan is just a small, painless feel good, blip on their coastline. If China moves, unwelcome, into a hostile territory of Taiwan, the Pacific allies will be restless, armies and navies will be deployed and that is when the worst thing happens…money stops flowing.

Don’t forget, money is the backbone of Chinese culture and the lifeline of the CCP. The love of money is driving the powerful overlords of Taiwan back to the honeypot (I mean mainland) Taking the capital city of taipei and leaving the betel nut fields of the south is a victory and end game.

Part of the victory will be the defeat of the ROC/CKS and an end to the civil war. Another part will be a successful execution of its will by a disrespected superpower. China’s recent quarrels over small rocky islands with it’s neighbors isn’t about territory, it’s about respect. Taking Taipei is the same as taking Taiwan. Northern Taiwan (SAR) would be a way to end the civil war without a shot being fired. Everyone keeps their job. Everyone keeps their home, and who knows, maybe they’ll get to keep their impactful ‘democratic elections’

The assertion is kind of ridiculous. What would China have to gain by allowing 2/3 of Taiwan’s land mass (and about half of its population and nearly all of its economic activity) to become independent? Why not go for all of it? China wouldn’t agree to a deal that would make it look like it lost, and you’d just be creating a new DMZ like north and South Korea.

I might as well respond to this silly thread.

There is no way this will happen. A lot of my relatives live in the north and the south. It makes no sense.

Taiwan is not a North and South Korea situation. =__= They just have different political and cultural viewpoints. Not ideologies (except, maybe a pro-China/money one could be an ideology of itself?) . A divided country is a stronger country. You need to be open to different opinions, but still unify on common goals. Plus, you have different ethnic groups living all around Taiwan. On top of all that, the aborigines from north to south would definitely not be happy.