NSR 150's. ANy thoughts?

Yeah the aftermarket pipe that I put on mine totally changed the power delivery. Had nothing below about 7,000rpm, but once you hit that, the power KICKED in - with a steel-toed boot to the gut. Front wheel got very light very quickly, and the bike shot forward. like it had a rocket stuck up its arse.

I found the stock pipe far more convenient for city work, but on open roads the aftermarket pipe was awesome.

RZs are awesome little things. :slight_smile: Stick on some Bridgestones and decent shocks, and they can corner like theyā€™re on rails. Very reliable machines too.

Yeah the aftermarket pipe that I put on mine totally changed the power delivery. Had nothing below about 7,000rpm, but once you hit that, the power KICKED in - with a steel-toed boot to the gut. Front wheel got very light very quickly, and the bike shot forward. like it had a rocket stuck up its arse.

I found the stock pipe far more convenient for city work, but on open roads the aftermarket pipe was awesome.

RZs are awesome little things. :slight_smile: Stick on some Bridgestones and decent shocks, and they can corner like theyā€™re on rails. Very reliable machines too.[/quote]

Haha, yes, this pipe is even worseā€¦ while Iā€™m racking up 8,000-8,500rpm I get passed by scooters but then the power kicks in and it whups everything including performance cars and scooter punks up to ~110km/h*. I have a scooter for light shoppingā€¦ a car for haulingā€¦ and the RZX is ALL FUN :slight_smile: Iā€™m getting excited nowā€¦ I think I need to go out for a ride and/or cold shower.

  • of course I advocate responsible riding at all times

I love my NSR. Yes, itā€™s 13 years old and covered in Kymco stickers, but itā€™s my first bike (scooters donā€™t count) and iā€™ve had some great fun in the 11 months Iā€™ve owned it. Itā€™s taken me all over north and central Taiwan, including a slightly deranged ride over the central highway from hualien to Fuxing. and onto Wuling farm. I bought it all stock and itā€™s still all stock, mainly because I canā€™t find someone to fix it properly.
Itā€™s been reasonably reliable, but not without problems. It stutters badly in first and second between 6 and 7 thousand, and wonā€™t make max revs before the power drops off, which means Iā€™m not getting full power out of it, I think. Iā€™ve had a rebuild, which helped a little, but if anyone knows an NSR mechanic, or good tuning shop, iā€™d be interested.
Anyone know the fines for running them non-stock? Every NSR I see in Taipei seems modified in some way, canā€™t believe the police let them all go.

I think someone mentioned a shop in Taipei that specialised in souping up NSRs in an older thread, heed. Maybe you can try dig that up.

Didnā€™t Mordeth used to have a really nice NSR150 a while back? How fast did that thing go?

i know a shop in taichungā€¦ they know heaps about NSRsā€¦ but theyā€™re definately not on the cheap side eitherā€¦

the NSRs iā€™ve test ridden before all seemed goodā€¦ more power than i expected, but even more peaky than my hornet - which is something i wouldnā€™t want on my day-to-day commute~ the hornetā€™s engine is about as peaky as i wanna get for normal street riding, though itā€™s great for thrashingā€¦ nothing like flying through the mountains, keeping it between 12-16k all the way :wink:

i had an RZ 300? 350? for a while many (many) years ago and can vouch for their bulletproof engines and the fun factor, but man, they flex and squirm. you probably should keep the stock broad power pipe, rather than any short peaky power pipe.
thereā€™s no need to go any bigger sizes on the tires either, itā€™d be a waste of money to change rims. the frame is limiting you there. but on the back wheel, who really cares?

iā€™d go the RZ again if i had to pick.

thatā€™s my 2c worth.

later, i grew up and learnt to love torque

[quote=ā€œurodacusā€]
thereā€™s no need to go any bigger sizes on the tires either, itā€™d be a waste of money to change rims. the frame is limiting you there.[/quote]Good point. Really sticky rubber just shows you how flexible the RZ* frame is. The NSR otoh is very front biased with itā€™s weight distribution, and has a very stiff chassis. Since thereā€™s not much weight on the rear tire, it wants the stickiest rubber you can squeeze onto the rim.

As to expansion chambers, well, it depends what the owner is going to use it for. No aftermarket exhaust is going to provide the midrange the stocker does. Having said that, the stocker is designed to show a torque spike at around 4k to make the bike feel punchier than it is. There used to be some very pipes available with much larger volume than the average, which showed good useable torque from about 4k, and then the real meat of the powerband at about 7k. The typical skinny low-volume pipe is a 7k rpm light-switch. Nothing below there. Thatā€™s fun on the open road but a real drag in traffic.
It also possible to port the RZ* for midrange torque, which works well with the stock exhaust.

[quote=ā€œredwagonā€][quote=ā€œurodacusā€]
thereā€™s no need to go any bigger sizes on the tires either, itā€™d be a waste of money to change rims. the frame is limiting you there.[/quote]Good point. Really sticky rubber just shows you how flexible the RZ* frame is. The NSR otoh is very front biased with itā€™s weight distribution, and has a very stiff chassis. Since thereā€™s not much weight on the rear tire, it wants the stickiest rubber you can squeeze onto the rim.

As to expansion chambers, well, it depends what the owner is going to use it for. No aftermarket exhaust is going to provide the midrange the stocker does. Having said that, the stocker is designed to show a torque spike at around 4k to make the bike feel punchier than it is. There used to be some very pipes available with much larger volume than the average, which showed good useable torque from about 4k, and then the real meat of the powerband at about 7k. The typical skinny low-volume pipe is a 7k rpm light-switch. Nothing below there. Thatā€™s fun on the open road but a real drag in traffic.
It also possible to port the RZ* for midrange torque, which works well with the stock exhaust.[/quote]

I found after climbing the hill to my house everday that my RZ was much more user friendly in day to day commuting with the stock pipe. I just moved, and discovered my speed pipe for my old bike down in the basement. Kicks in around 7k and maxes about 10.5. Free to good home. She would hit 160kph (or bury the 180kph speedo) with this bad boy hooked up to it. Also have muffler.

Off topic, but, my Ninja is finally home, with fresh bodywork from Japanā€¦ :discodance:

[quote=ā€œMJBā€]I just moved[/quote]To get to a safe distance from your clumsy neighbor? :wink:

Actually I just moved upstairsā€¦but the bike will be guarded in the future by a heavy duty chain, landmines and fragmentation grenades.

ā€œThis side toward enemyā€ :smiling_imp:

oh, and did i mention they eat oil? and oil rings and ring lands if you donā€™t keep the throttle a bit civilised? but then you knew that.

i can remember going though a lot of oil. maybe my engine was stuffed. that is a part of my life i donā€™t really remember too clearly

PS redwagon, could you fit MJBā€™s pipe and port my PGO Hot 90 for me? i donā€™t have a dremel hereā€¦ :smiling_imp:

Cā€™mon, itā€™s a small-bore, two-stroke crotch-rocket. No-one expects to get 100,000km from a piston, especially when used the way they beg to be used! The OEM pistons on both bikes are very good actually. The aftermarket (oversize) pistons generally available are just garbage. With my NSR I ended up having to use a Wi$eco forged piston which a vendor in Taipei had ordered $pecially. :wink:

Neither bike is very heavy on oil when you consider their fuel consumption. Maybe yours had the oil pump jacked right up. A lot of local mechanics think (warning!) that they will improve something by increasing the amount of oil injection.

PGO90? One word answer: No! :stuck_out_tongue: