Obama surge

I disagree. I think the media is being inherently racist by portraying him as the “black candidate” to assuage their liberal guilt. A great article on Obama’s record (by the person who was brought up before the Alberta Human Rights Permission over the Danish cartoons].

network.nationalpost.com/np/blog … white.aspx

Liberal ‘guilt’ is a figment of your imagination. :moon:

So? :unamused:

Which merely makes him less of a hypocrite than Clinton and Shrub.

[quote]That’s what this campaign is to liberals: identity politics. Obama is nothing more than a black candidate. Hillary Clinton is nothing more than a female candidate.
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Why not let liberals tell you what the campaigns are to them, rather than putting this BS in their mouths? :loco:

Get real. :unamused:

So DB, instead of telling Chewy how wrong he is, how about telling us why Obama, based on his stance on issues is a such a strong choice for president.

And please, stop the eye-roley thing. It’s obnoxious. If you don’t think the press and the press pretty much alone is making this a presidential “race” like it did with Jessie, you made need to get real too.

Obama can’t be the anti-Christ. Little baby Jesus told me, using my dog as a medium, that the anti-Christ is my neighbor or some random couple sitting in a car making out.

Looks like Obama is trying to broaden his appeal to right-wing Democrats and Reagan Democrats. He thinks Reagan changed the trajectory of America and Clinton did not. Ouch! :laughing: Hillary might not choose him as the VP for the Dems if he gets any more personal.

politico.com/blogs/bensmith/ … eagan.html

Maybe he figures that if both Clintons are going to campaign against him, he’s got to take a few shots at Bill. I notice he did find a way to put him in the same sentence as Nixon.

Edwards slammed the “Reagan” comparison but Hillary listed Reagan as one of her favorite presidents.

Anyone know of a good divorce lawyer in Taipei? My wife (along with my own parents) are supporting Obama in 2008. :laughing:

I wonder who the folks in Canada are supporting in the Taiwan Presidential Erection in two months?

Well, I would say most overseas Taiwanese in Vancouver support the KMT given the relatively affluent nature of the Chinese communities in BC. In regards to the average Canadian on the street, I would say they are heavily “brainwashed” by the media. And Canada’s media fawns over the PRC in my opinion (e.g. the China rising series in the Globe and Mail).

Therefore, while most Canadians on the street would probably confuse Taiwan with Thailand, they would probably see expanded trade links and a relaxed relationship with China as a good thing.

What would the folks in upstate New York think? Probably along the same lines, I would think.

Most folks in upstate NY could care less.

Actually my point Chewtoy was that your Taiwanese wife even has a preference in the US erection.

Doesn’t that strike anyone as odd? Or at least a weird sign o’ the times?

[quote=“jdsmith”]

Actually my point Chewtoy was that your Taiwanese wife even has a preference in the US erection.

Doesn’t that strike anyone as odd? Or at least a weird sign o’ the times?[/quote]

She has been corrupted by the political preference of the ESL magazines she buys regularly :laughing: Oh yeah, that and she says he has a nice, honest face. :unamused:

[quote=“Chewycorns”][quote=“jdsmith”]

Actually my point Chewtoy was that your Taiwanese wife even has a preference in the US erection.

Doesn’t that strike anyone as odd? Or at least a weird sign o’ the times?[/quote]

She has been corrupted by the political preference of the ESL magazines she buys regularly :laughing: Oh yeah, that and she says he has a nice, honest face. :unamused:[/quote]
Yeah well, that and a dime will get you a hot cup of jack squat!!

SC victory speech
This is a very good one. Of course once elected, he will have to put some substance in there. I can’t imagine this type of speech as a state of the union. I think the congress would start chanting, “No you can’t”.

I call it the Nixon-Carter effect. The corrupt incompent Bush administration just made people want an outsider in the White House.

So Obama will win a Nobel out of office while erecting affordable housing in poor white neighborhoods?

He wishes.

[spoiler]

I have a feeling, very unfounded, that Obama’s call for Chang’e could be supported by C-hina lones that he can’t pay off unless he becomes president. Don’t you think Clinton money is more global and less risky, coming from more established .coms that weathered the 90s crash? Firms like Blackstone, Hilton and MorganStanley are more familiar with Clintion, it seems. Do we want another gambler in the White House burning fuel like a madman to buy more fuel, or a Gore-style conservationist working on alternative energy to weather a bear market and prevent gas lines reminiscent of the Carter era when oilmen circle the wagons? Hillary Clinton is showing fiscal responsibility of the kind her husband used to pay down Reagan’s deficit and more genuine innovation.

Reagan Republican Admits Clinton Better Than Bush[/spoiler]

I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade, but my conscience is ringing alarm bells. It is certain HIlary ClInton is thinking that far ahead.

“Yes we can!”
I was just looking at someone’s avatar and it came to me. Obama plagarized his slogan from Bob the Builder!

Edit: I guess I’m a little slow. Yes we can

Here we go, you knew his honeymoon joyride couldn’t last forever:

online.wsj.com/article/SB1205452 … mmentaries

Obama and the Minister
By RONALD KESSLER
March 14, 2008; Page A19

In a sermon delivered at Howard University, Barack Obama’s longtime minister, friend and adviser blamed America for starting the AIDS virus, training professional killers, importing drugs and creating a racist society that would never elect a black candidate president.

The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor of Mr. Obama’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, gave the sermon at the school’s Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel in Washington on Jan. 15, 2006.
[Obama and the Minister]
Trinity United Church of Christ/Religion News Service
Sen. Barack Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright

“We’ve got more black men in prison than there are in college,” he began. “Racism is alive and well. Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever be considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse [Jackson] and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body.”

Mr. Wright thundered on: “America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”

His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, “We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . .”

Concluding, Mr. Wright said: “We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .”

Considering this view of America, it’s not surprising that in December Mr. Wright’s church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan for lifetime achievement. In the church magazine, Trumpet, Mr. Wright spoke glowingly of the Nation of Islam leader. “His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening,” Mr. Wright said of Mr. Farrakhan. “He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest.”

After Newsmax broke the story of the award to Farrakhan on Jan. 14, Mr. Obama issued a statement. However, Mr. Obama ignored the main point: that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Mr. Farrakhan, and that Mr. Wright’s church was behind the award to the Nation of Islam leader.

Instead, Mr. Obama said, “I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan. I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree.” Trumpet is owned and produced by Mr. Wright’s church out of the church’s offices, and Mr. Wright’s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor.

Meeting with Jewish leaders in Cleveland on Feb. 24, Mr. Obama described Mr. Wright as being like “an old uncle who sometimes will say things that I don’t agree with.” He rarely mentions the points of disagreement.

Mr. Obama went on to explain Mr. Wright’s anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state’s support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his previous claim that his church gave the award to Mr. Farrakhan because of his work with ex-offenders, Mr. Obama appears to have made that up.

Neither the presentation of the award nor the Trumpet article about the award mentions ex-offenders, and Mr. Wright’s statements denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way. Mr. Obama nonetheless told the Jewish leaders that the award to Mr. Farrakhan “showed a lack of sensitivity to the Jewish community.” That is an understatement.

As for Mr. Wright’s repeated comments blaming America for the 9/11 attacks because of what Mr. Wright calls its racist and violent policies, Mr. Obama has said it sounds as if the minister was trying to be “provocative.”

Hearing Mr. Wright’s venomous and paranoid denunciations of this country, the vast majority of Americans would walk out. Instead, Mr. Obama and his wife Michelle have presumably sat through numerous similar sermons by Mr. Wright.

Indeed, Mr. Obama has described Mr. Wright as his “sounding board” during the two decades he has known him. Mr. Obama has said he found religion through the minister in the 1980s. He joined the church in 1991 and walked down the aisle in a formal commitment of faith.

The title of Mr. Obama’s bestseller “The Audacity of Hope” comes from one of Wright’s sermons. Mr. Wright is one of the first people Mr. Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004. Mr. Obama consulted Mr. Wright before deciding to run for president. He prayed privately with Mr. Wright before announcing his candidacy last year.

Mr. Obama obviously would not choose to belong to Mr. Wright’s church and seek his advice unless he agreed with at least some of his views. In light of Mr. Wright’s perspective, Michelle Obama’s comment that she feels proud of America for the first time in her adult life makes perfect sense.

Much as most of us would appreciate the symbolism of a black man ascending to the presidency, what we have in Barack Obama is a politician whose closeness to Mr. Wright underscores his radical record.

The media have largely ignored Mr. Obama’s close association with Mr. Wright. This raises legitimate questions about Mr. Obama’s fundamental beliefs about his country. Those questions deserve a clearer answer than Mr. Obama has provided so far.

Bummer. We’re going to have a Republican president. Again. :frowning:

Especially since it is not cool for the media to talk about McCain’s ministers.

Obama’s supporters should fight fire with fire and claim that it’s racist to talk critically – or at all – about his ministers.