But you still haven’t answered my question. Are they paying you more than they’re paying me?
I get three bucks a post. Of course, it’s not like a US government salary like agent Scholl gets but you know. Every little helps. Actually its kind of unfair, as mine only get paid if they make actual sense. Unlike agent Scholl. The FBI doesn’t give a fuck WHAT he posts, as long as he posts. Evidently.
So you haven’t got any of those new Amero things yet?
Sandman, you think our federali friend has been spirited away by the men in black?
Probably scanning the crank sites for more cut-and-paste that nobody’ll read.
The guys has an amazing way of coming back from the crypt. But I’m wondering if he’s bailed because the power of my arguments are so overwhelming he feels like a retard from just reading them. Think it could be that’s he’s overwhelmed with us and know he’s out of his league?
Things like that only happen in the movies.
Not very likely, he probably went in a bit too deep plumbing for the next sensational link he’ll post, and got his lines caught in some porno pages or something. No doubt he’ll resurface before too long.
I doubt he his doing much, seems to take the weekends off. Expect to see his usual rubbish, cut and paste later.
I’ve come to accept that reading quotes and references from the official 9/11 story can be challenging if not outright painful to some, so here’s my take on this thread.
This thread was started because an American actor (who happened to be born in New York City), wrote an open letter to President Obama requesting a 20 minute meeting to discuss the justifications for a new investigation into the attacks of September 11, 2001.
Here’s what this thread has revealed.
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No credible evidence linking Osama bin Laden (OBL) to the 9/11 attacks has convinced the FBI to claim OBL was behing the attacks, not even the fatty OBL confession video. Only on public pressumption (aka myth) did the executive branch and pentagon justify attacking Afghanistan (aka Pipelinestan) in October 2001.
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The executive branch delayed opening any investigation for 15 months, and then appointed Henry Kissinger, whose extradition has been requested by other countries for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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The Pentagon photos of shrapnel and a hand-carried rotor conclude not that AA#77 crashed into the Pentagon, but that something did did crash. Damages to interior columns, interior C-ring and outside bridge lightpole damages line up with a specific path explained by the official story that AA#77 flew directly into the Pentagon causing the damage. A team of citizens investigated and recorded testimonies of eye-witnesses, who convincingly deny the official story flight path possibility. Over 80 recordings of what did hit the Pentagon were confiscated immediately after the attacks, and to this day have been kept secret from the public.
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Without any historical precedence, steel framed skyscraper of 47 stories, housing NYC headquarters of the US Secret Service, CIA, DoD, Guiliani’s OEM, SEC investigating ENRON (links to Bush, Rove, Ken Lay, Thomas E. White) and thousands of other fraudulent financial cases, the WTC 7 tower collapsed almost perfectly, at almost exact free fall speed, after having been reported to have already collapsed due to structural failures. The official story claims fire and heat alone caused the sudden global free fall collapse. Thanks to Mick, his repeated promotion of a WTC 1-2 collapse theorist explained why he/she thinks the official story of WTC 7 collapse is impossible.
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Over 80,000 New York City citizens have petitioned to support the re-investigation into the 9/11 attacks. Mainstream media has of yet not reported this reality or its implications.
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The 9/11 Commission Report was directed by an expert in public presumption (aka myth), preemptive strike and political history whitewashing. Its been recently reported that this director, Phillip Zelikow, actually tried to insert links between Iraq and 9/11 into the official 9/11 Commission Report.
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The only motives presented reported lead only to al-Quaeda, with no reference to CIA or Enron history with the Muhjadeen or Taliban. Cui bono (or even "follow the money) was not considered in any measure. Trillions, upon billions, upon millions of dollars siphoned to who? OBL? No, to the very proponents of the official story (including Big five media).
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The 9/11 Commission Report bases its ‘factual’ al-Qaeda analysis of its planning 9/11 on secret, yet to be released, torture interrogations. Chairmen Keane and Hamilton have confessed in their own book that the credibility of the ‘intel’ was never established, yet was included anyway.
*This point I particularly requested sandman to comment on, even taking a guess at ‘how much evidence’ the 9/11 Commission Report relies on was actually gleaned from secret detainee interrogations.
Is this enough to sufficiently explain why more Americans are asking tough questions about the official 9/11 story?
Mick and Tempo Gain, thank you for lighthearted brevity.
About my frequency of posting, I admit others are online more than I.
Mick, your proposed alternate ENERGY TRANSFER IN THE WTC (1-2) COLLAPSE author F. R. Greening - is it the same author who wrote to NIST explaining how their WTC 7 fire+heat=immediate global collapse theory is impossible? I’ve come to think it is. I quoted it for you on page 2, maybe you missed it.
Here’s to highlighting the accomplishments of my two loudest beligerent antagonists.
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One of them has admitted not trusting the Bush/Cheney administration, but it remains unclear if he is arguing that the official story of 9/11 is true and accurate. The other does apparently maintain that the official story is credible and accurate. Both somehow find pleasure in insulting an American who questions the official story of 9/11.
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My two attempts to engage these characters to better understand their grievances, remain unanswered.[quote=“ScottSummers”]…then tell me all that you think was ‘faked’ on September 11, 2001.[/quote][quote=“to answer this, I”]You’re asking me what else was faked?
Sincerity to report the truth by appointing Kissinger as the investigation director.
Any argument?[/quote]
[quote=“to sandman, I”][color=red]Sandman[/color]: You leave VERY little room for conjecture!
Would you consider offering a guesstimation of the number (or even percentage) of cited evidence footnotes in the 9/11 Commission Report rooted on intelligence gleaned from secret detainee interrogations?
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- Apparently taking a position of insults, bullying and name-calling of another forum member satisfies forumosa.com rules of personal attacks. One moderator seemed to actually encourage the personal attacks by writing "OK, lay off the ‘personal attacks’ on j.scholl and we might keep this thread open. ". I choose to believe Gus and the volunteer moderators sincerely desire this forum to remain suitable for open discussion. These antagonists seemingly reflect the direct opposite.
[quote=“j.scholl”]Mick and Tempo Gain, thank you for lighthearted brevity.
About my frequency of posting, I admit others are online more than I.
Mick, your proposed alternate ENERGY TRANSFER IN THE WTC (1-2) COLLAPSE author F. R. Greening - is it the same author who wrote to NIST explaining how their WTC 7 fire+heat=immediate global collapse theory is impossible? I’ve come to think it is. I quoted it for you on page 2, maybe you missed it.[/quote]
I saw it. But after 40 odd pages of you asking questions are waiting for you to supply a couple of answers to very simple and pertinent questions asked by Scott.
You also never answered my question about how you think news agencies got scripted information. Was it a fax, a hotline, email, what? By what process can you see that this happens?
I will agree with sandman on one point, the 9/11 truth movement has not become mainstream news, but NYC CAN referendum to demand new 9/11 investigation IS being reported.
Strong words follow. Think again if you’re hoping the movement to uncover the truth about 9/11 will die, along with any whistleblowers who step out.[quote=“Raw Story”]“While the specter of 9/11 is raised repeatedly, ghoulishly, dangled before us to justify the dismemberment of our Constitution, the trampling of our civil liberties,” said Sunjata. “Questioning 9/11 itself? Oh, that is strictly prohibited. Do you hear that, New York? Do you hear that, family members? Cops? Firefighters? First responders? Your government has just told you, again, again, that you are good enough to die for them, but that asking questions about the inciting event is un-American, unpatriotic and just quite simply out of bounds.”[/quote]
[quote=“NYC CAN”]Only in fighting to the very end will the voices of 80,000 New Yorkers resonate across the country, and those who are still asleep awaken to the mockery of justice in a local government claiming it has no jurisdiction over thousands of its residents being murdered.
The 9/11 Commission Report - a disgrace to any society that considers itself just, democratic and transparent; and a shameless affront to those who died on September 11th - is on its last legs.[/quote]
[quote=“John J. Farmer, Jr., former Senior Counsel and Team Leader to the 9/11 Commission and now Dean of Rutgers School of Law-Newark”]Dean Farmer, one of the principal authors of the 9/11 Commission Report, includes critical evidence omitted in recent reports by the Departments of Defense and Transportation. The Commission, believing that civilian and military officials had not been completely forthright in their information to Congress, the media, and the Commission itself about significant aspects of 9/11, had requested the reports.
“At some level of government,” says Dean Farmer, “at some point in time, a decision was made not to tell the truth about the national response to the attacks on the morning of 9/11. We owe the truth to the families of the victims of 9/11. We owe it to the American public as well, because only by understanding what has gone wrong in the past can we assure our nation’s safety in the future.”[/quote]
[quote=“PR Newswire”]The effort to establish a local commission to pick up where the 9/11 Commission left off comes just as the 9/11 Commission’s Chief Counsel John Farmer released a book entitled “The Ground Truth” in which he claims “at some level of government, at some point in time. . . there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened.”
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If the Court decides in NYC CAN’s favor and 15,000 of the 28,000 additional signatures submitted on September 4 are deemed valid by the City Clerk, the referendum will go on this November’s ballot. If the referendum passes, it would lead to the creation of a local, independent commission with subpoena power that would be tasked with comprehensively reinvestigating the attacks.[/quote]
But, is there a chance these highlight the beginning of the end of intelligent Americans trusting the official Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld administration story of 9/11?
[quote=“Mick”][quote=“j.scholl”]Mick, your proposed alternate ENERGY TRANSFER IN THE WTC (1-2) COLLAPSE author F. R. Greening - is it the same author who wrote to NIST explaining how their WTC 7 fire+heat=immediate global collapse theory is impossible? I’ve come to think it is. I quoted it for you on page 2, maybe you missed it.[/quote]I saw it.[/quote]So why do you think your author describes the NIST report on WTC 7 (fires+heat=sudden global collapse) impossible?
It’s my pleasure. My ribs came out pretty good by the way. I have a theory about the gaping hole in my balcony floor too.
In the flow of LIFE,
destruction never
has the last word;
Creation brings a
phoenix out of the
ashes every time.
makehistory.national911memorial. … eos/144018
In Loving Memory
Of Those Lost
But Never Forgotten
September 11, 2001
And here’s a new video submitted by a New Yorker of the 2nd twin tower crash.
makehistory.national911memorial.org/videos/51002
Boy that’s a lot of explosion on impact. Jet fuel perhaps?
Whats the matter j.scholl. Not able to answer questions? Only like to post question after question of your own?
I answered many of your questions already, as have others. It would only seem polite you try to answer some of ours.
Oh man, it’s great to have you back. I was starting to miss you. Kind of like the noise the train makes; you never know how important it is to 'til it’s gone.
You keep telling me you’re trying to engage me and then you babble on and on about the same old stuff. I don’t care about that stuff. It’s not important to me. I want answers to the things I find important. You just won’t do that. Clearly you can read and write and use MS Word, but there seems to be something missing.
I talk with Truthers on all sorts of websites. None of them wants to tell me why a major Truther event can’t get more than 150 people and more typically, it’s less than 20.
Dylan Avery and a pack of others claim that firefighters, victims, survivors and their families were somehow involved in setting up the Inside Job.
Truthers - like you - repeatedly claim that planes did not crash in Shakesville or at the Pentagon. Fortigun and others here have pointed that your evidence is flawed, but I don’t care about that. Where did the planes go? Where did the people on board go? And who did it to them?
That’s what I care about. You can play with yourself all day putting pretty colours up and posting crap that no one reads. Maybe it impresses your Truther friends back home. It bores me. Tell me something I care about.