Paying a UK bill from a Taiwan Bank?

Standing order on my UK account (for Virgin Media internet connection to my Edinburgh flat) got refused, probably because its out of money. Can’t confirm because I’ve forgotten the password so no longer have access. I’ve cancelled the Virgin Media contract and just have this outstanding payment

Went in to Yuanta bank with the bill. Cue consternation and much smartphone scanning… Eventually

“You must to use computer” ses they (Whatever TF that means).

“Can’t you use computer?” ses I “Isn’t transferring money using computer what you do?”

“Aren’t you A BANK??”

Apparently not.

Wait, you’re trying to pay a bill from the UK with a Taiwanese bank? They’re not gonna have the infrastructure for that or even know what to do with it.

Yeh. I dunno about not having the “infrastructure” exactly, since the wires are probably there, but they very obviously didn’t know what to do with them.

I still find it a bit hard to believe though.

All that “International Banking” jive I grew up hearing about was actually science fiction?

Have you ever been to a Taiwanese bank? They’re stuck in the 1980s

Your best bet would probably be to call up Virgin and pay with a credit/debit card.

Yeah, but wiring is different than bill paying systems that might be proprietary in other countries.

If you want to wire for a bill, contact the debtor to ask their details. Then wire it to them.

Or, if you have online payments, then wire to yourself and pay online.

Taiwan’s bill paying system has those three barcodes they’re used to.

Would you be able to pay a Taiwan bill from a UK high street bank? Don’t think so, so why would you think you can do it in Taiwan?

Even if you can send money to Virgin Media from Taiwan it is going to be expensive using international remittance (SWIFT)! The fees alone will cost you at least £20. Also, the reference you are supposed to use for the payment might not even show up on the UK side. So Virgin Media won’t know/won’t care you paid and you will have a load of hassle trying to explain to them you paid from Taiwan!

The simplest solution is to ask a friend or relative in the UK to pay for you and you just send them the money using PayPal, Skrill, UK bank transfer etc.

If it isn’t possible, then it isn’t.

Kind of odd, though, that you seem to think that is some kind of Natural Law.

Its sort of pathetic that it isn’t possible, but I suppose pathetic should be no big surprise.

I’m usually first to rag on the banks here but most countries’ banking systems are incompatible with each other. Even Canadian debit cards don’t work in the US.

Sorry to say, I am sure the bank tellers think it’s equally as weird a foreigner came in expecting to pay international bills that they are not set up for and not trained for.

Every country’s finance regulations are different and opening it up to a ‘natural law’ means combining China’s ultra restrictive regime with tax havens and finance-liberal regimes like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

Try getting 200+ countries and territories to agree on anything.

Do you have any friends or family in the UK who can take care of that?

Maybe sign up for a Transferwise / Revolut / Monese / … account otherwise. You can add money to those using a credit card and transfers to the UK shouldn’t be an issue

Transferwise is probably your best option @Ducked. I agree.

Why can you pay online by credit card or debt card?
This would be the easiest and cheapest way.

How much is the payment for?

If it’s a one-off simple thing and you don’t have another convenient option, I could perhaps pay it from my UK account and you reimburse me into my Taiwanese account at the current exchange rate. You can let me know if that’s useful. :slightly_smiling_face:

You can’t really pay bills from other countries at a bank.

But in the West they usually allow you to pay bills using any VISA/Master Card cards. This include rent, electricity, water, etc. (though some may charge a rather hefty transfer fee if it’s anything other than direct debit).

So find you Virgin Media allows you to pay with a credit card. You will have to call or contact support by some means if you forgotten the password and have no more access.

That’s nice of you. I’ll try using my Taiwan Post Office Visa card first, but it’ll be a few days until I get around to it because the online teaching jive has me a bit distracted.

It was a fairly substantial bill, but once a debt collecting agency got involved (which actually, unlike Virgin, seemed to respond to emails) the amount decreased sharply, possibly because they acknowledged my original cancellation email.

Now about 24 quid IIRC

It’s not their fault.
You need a bank account number and the swift code. Get it. Then wire the money from here. Make sure it’s overpaid in case of deductions …Other idea is to use credit cards as you are trying .

That’s a very expensive way to do things.

You can however either use credit card or try to get a friend in the UK to help you and you paypal the difference.

The real question here is why can’t you walk into a bank in Edinburgh and pay your Taiwan internet bill from there? :grinning:

Or why Virgin Media can’t issue a invoice in NTD with an TW account number, bet if you call them they don’t even speak Taiwanese.

No.

It isnt.

Its a real question, but it isn’t the real question here.

It could be the real question there