See as we all ( supposedly )care about the lives of foreigners in why has no one petitioned the government to ROC citizenship to children born in Taiwan to APRC holders?
Should those here with Gold Card also be included?
If you include gold card then you should include all ARC holders
Well JFRV holders children are already born citizens here. But those who are not on APRC are not permanent residents. Non permanent residents in Australia that have children are not getting Australian citizenship being born there. So Gold Card holders I see many are changing to APRC… so its fine to say do not include their kids, although some Gold Card holders are already citizens here so a moot point for them.
How long is the government going to keep up these idiotic policies? Are they actively trying to shoot themselves in the foot?
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The NIA seems to have free reign to come up with their own idiotic regulations. It’s not an area that politicians / voters care about as it doesn’t affect them, so you end up with a department with discriminatory practices and freedom to come up with whatever rules they want.
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I find very laughable the requirements to get the APRC for the ppl in this scenario. There is no distinction between them, born and bred here, and someone fresh off the boat/airplane.
Very, very idytioc, just give them the APRC (not even saying citizenship, that won’t happen anytime soon).
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Why isn’t Taiwan acting like a country facing a demographic cliff, and one that needs all the international connections it can get? Very strange.
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Old farts r racist, youngsters have no influence yet and don’t bother.
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Are the children of JFRV holders that got their JFRV based on marriage to a foreign APRC holder?
I doubt it, but interested to know if it’s a possibility 
I assume you meant children of a local taiwanese citizen whose partner has a JFRV. but the key point is parent being a citizen. or so I thought.
We have the actual freedom to be retarded.
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Does not seem as if many people care to have children born of APRC holders here to get citizenship by petition. Perhaps the numbers are so few it matters not.
They should put that on the flag. 
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Every country is facing it; immigration is just a temporary solution with long term consequences. What are you gonna do when there’s no country left that has replacement level birth rate? Should just prepare for that right now instead of kicking the ball down the road.
How? 
perhaps a step one is make an actual reciprocal.system.without massive double standards and.hypocrisy to the level that when people might get right fucked in other areas of law, pay or treatment they still have a glimmer of hope without giving up their heritage. again, as a first~fuckig~step. not even asking a lot.
granted taiwan is afraid of china and all that, so wording and laws reflect walking on glass. all this needs to change towards basic solid funding and Taiwan can be a bastion of progress nearly overnight
we still use a Chinese parties flag as our national flag. wont happen the oppostions alternative options are so insanely cringey and terrible it’s still beneficial to use the modern day enemy’s flag lol!
Except for the EU Sovereign nations have never used reciprocity when it comes to resident visa’s or citizenship. Even then EU countries do have different citizenship laws. Children born in Austria to parents who are permanent residents but not citizens do not get citizenship by being born in Austria.
Then taiwan would need to be reciprocal with such nations, no? Easy peasy, case closed. however, that isnt how taiwan works. at all.
frankly, if Taiwan stopped being so friggen intentionally ambiguous (or changing goal posts based on their whims) with even the most basic of laws and regulations, it would be better off. that’s the root. but Taiwan also enjoys scape boating and avoiding.liability, so it wont happen. on immigration, it’s an even bigger problem. but we dont even.know how to paint lines on roads with a SOP based on preventing.car accidents. so, …fuck…
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The stay-in-Taiwan issue was solved a few years ago for most children of APRC holders and another foreign national. If the APRC holder is a professional, the child can become an APRC holder themselves after five years:
After a foreign professional who engages in professional work in the State has been approved for permanent residency by the NIA, their spouse, children under the age of majority, … having legally and continuously resided in the State for five years, being present for an average of more than 183 days each year*, may apply to the NIA for permanent residency if they meet the following requirements:*
Act for the Recruitment and Employment of Foreign Professionals §16.
As of the end of 2022, 699 spouses and children had become permanent residents.
As of the end of September this year, there were 325 permanent residents aged 15 or less. The probably all used used §16.
In addition, children who grew up in Taiwan before PR became available to minor children have been able to easily obtain work permits and ARCs on their own since 2018. Act for the Recruitment and Employment of Foreign Professionals §15. After 5 years and meeting financial/skills requirements they can get permanent residence too. At the end of 2022, there were 76 such active work permits.
In short, anyone who really did grow up here can now almost always stay if they so choose.
Ctizenship is of course another matter.
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Does not seem as if many people care to have children born of APRC holders here to get citizenship by petition. Perhaps the numbers are so few it matters not.
It’s just a few hundred people.
For the record, this is wrong when it comes to rules the criteria for permanent residence or citizenship. The NIA has no power to come up with these regulations. The rules for permanent residence and citizenship must be and always are created by statutes passed by the the legislature. The NIA does not even set policy for this. Policies are created by the National Development Council. They may or may not be passed into law (most are eventually).
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