Another attack of stupidity. Apparently, the police requested from our employer to show proof that my SO has left the country. They are asking for a copy of the exit stamp. Well, it is probably not a big deal, and I can ask her to send it over, it just sounds a bit stupid. I am wondering what they would do if nobody would be able to contact the person that has left. Would they continue to search the entire country? Would she be put on a no-fly list?
You should get a picture of yourself waving to an airport bus and title it “Rat says goodbye to his SO”. Be sure to date it for the day she left and send it to the plods. I’m willing to be they’d accept it.
HG
[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]You should get a picture of yourself waving to an airport bus and title it “Rat says goodbye to his SO”. Be sure to date it for the day she left and send it to the plods. I’m willing to be they’d accept it.
HG[/quote]
That or video footage of the CRAZY parties your throwing now. 
You should do a video diary of yourself for a day, with things like eating alone, sleeping alone, etc.
Those are great suggestions, maybe a picture of her next to Sears tower would do it as well.
I personally like MTK’s suggestion, as it involves crazy parties.
[quote=“ratlung”]Those are great suggestions, maybe a picture of her next to Sears tower would do it as well.
I personally like MTK’s suggestion, as it involves crazy parties.[/quote]
Make sure she’s holding up today’s paper, preferably the Tribune.
Seriously, this just goes to show the lack of inter department relationship/cooperation in Taiwan. If one had common sense, wouldn’t the police go to the immigration department where THEY have the exit stamp and information? :loco:
[quote=“Namahottie”]
Seriously, this just goes to show the lack of inter department relationship/cooperation in Taiwan. If one had common sense, wouldn’t the police go to the immigration department where THEY have the exit stamp and information? :loco:[/quote]
That’s exactly what I told them once the request came in. Go ask immigration at CKS. At least that proofs more than some nameless stamp. I can just copy one of my stamps. HEHEHE
and do not forget that each landing / departure card is scanned by a computer.
No clue how their system works but there should be a name linked to that card no?
What else is the purpose to have these cards? to track you down if you won the lotery or if you are potentialy contamninated by birdflu?
I think your employer should simply point out that her ARC has been cancelled, that her exit stamp is in her passport and therefore unavailable to them and that they should contact immigration if they want confirmation that she’s left the country.
I could not agree any more. You might think that the police would think of that themselves. Actually, two or three days after she left, there came some sort of police order in that she needs to leave. At least that shows me that someone cares.
[quote=“miltownkid”][quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]You should get a picture of yourself waving to an airport bus and title it “Rat says goodbye to his SO”. Be sure to date it for the day she left and send it to the plods. I’m willing to be they’d accept it.
HG[/quote]
That or video footage of the CRAZY parties your throwing now. [/quote]
Ha! The best answer so far!
[quote=“ceevee369”]and do not forget that each landing / departure card is scanned by a computer.
No clue how their system works but there should be a name linked to that card no?[/quote]
Any foreigner can go to the foreign affairs police or the foreign tax office and walk out a few minutes later with a printout of every single entry and exit they’ve made. In many cases they will have a complete record even if you’ve used more than one passport. The mystery is why the foreign affairs police can’t do this themselves to get the information they requested from the OP.
[quote=“jlick”][quote=“ceevee369”]and do not forget that each landing / departure card is scanned by a computer.
No clue how their system works but there should be a name linked to that card no?[/quote]
Any foreigner can go to the foreign affairs police or the foreign tax office and walk out a few minutes later with a printout of every single entry and exit they’ve made. In many cases they will have a complete record even if you’ve used more than one passport. The mystery is why the foreign affairs police can’t do this themselves to get the information they requested from the OP.[/quote]
And I doubt I can get this information for my SO. I don’t even know why I should be getting involved into this. But thanks for that tip jlick, I will keep it in mind if it comes to this.
I think what I meant to say somewhere in there was that the foreign affairs police offer entry/exit records service themselves, so they shouldn’t be asking you or your SO to do something their very own office can do for them. Perhaps you could go in and help them pick out the right form.
Because they are too lazy and too busy drinking tea and playing mahjong …
I think what I meant to say somewhere in there was that the foreign affairs police offer entry/exit records service themselves, so they shouldn’t be asking you or your SO to do something their very own office can do for them. Perhaps you could go in and help them pick out the right form.[/quote]
I did some further questioning of my contact person here at work. This is the Taoyuan Police that wants to know, and not the foreign affairs police. Really odd. Well, let’s hope they start talking to each other.
In what form was this “request” made? Over the telephone??? Or how???
If it was an oral request, your employer’s first reply should be to state that he/she needs a formal written request in CHINESE/ENGLISH bilingual format. With this document in hand, you will be able to coordinate with the domestic and overseas organizations involved. (The legal references for making such a request should of course be included in the letter.)
(Hint: If the police cannot produce this formal written request, then the entire matter may simply dry up and disappear. At the same time, you are effectively diverting the potential for “argument” about the reasonableness of the police request … you are no longer discussing whether it is reasonable or valid for them to make such a request, rather you are stressing that the request has to be in a written format according to the guidelines you have specified … otherwise there is no way for you to assist the police in this matter. )
In what form was this “request” made? Over the telephone??? Or how???
If it was an oral request, your employer’s first reply should be to state that he/she needs a formal written request in CHINESE/ENGLISH bilingual format. With this document in hand, you will be able to coordinate with the domestic and overseas organizations involved. (The legal references for making such a request should of course be included in the letter.)
(Hint: If the police cannot produce this formal written request, then the entire matter may simply dry up and disappear. At the same time, you are effectively diverting the potential for “argument” about the reasonableness of the police request … you are no longer discussing whether it is reasonable or valid for them to make such a request, rather you are stressing that the request has to be in a written format according to the guidelines you have specified … otherwise there is no way for you to assist the police in this matter. )[/quote]
You have a valid point. I have now idea in which format the request was made. It came to me through several channels. I think they were just looking for an easy way to get to the information through me. Since I had my doubts about the whole thing and asked too many questions, they seemed to have given up, as my colleague here has not received any further calls from HR, or whoever the police contacted.
If she’s already gone, why would you even bother to comply? Let them fill up their own files.
In what form was this “request” made? Over the telephone??? Or how???
If it was an oral request, your employer’s first reply should be to state that he/she needs a formal written request in CHINESE/ENGLISH bilingual format. With this document in hand, you will be able to coordinate with the domestic and overseas organizations involved. (The legal references for making such a request should of course be included in the letter.)
(Hint: If the police cannot produce this formal written request, then the entire matter may simply dry up and disappear. At the same time, you are effectively diverting the potential for “argument” about the reasonableness of the police request … you are no longer discussing whether it is reasonable or valid for them to make such a request, rather you are stressing that the request has to be in a written format according to the guidelines you have specified … otherwise there is no way for you to assist the police in this matter. )[/quote]
All that man said!
You could cut and paste.
Lurrvely call, Hartzel. It’s one of those civic duties to folllow this up.
HG