Mod Lang:
Damn Boy! I have to say I agree with you wholeheartedly. Kill em all and let God sort em out. This is the topic of my sermon this Sunday at the We are Right, They are Wrong and Will be Damned for All Eternity Baptist Church. Come along. I’ll save you a spot in the front pew.
Love Father Freddy
P.S. Avatar courtesy of Alien.
You know, I think Tom Tomorrow’s been reading Forumosa.
This one seems far too familiar:
I’m delighted to see, Fetid Father Fred, that you decided to use that avatar. I can certainly see the resemblance.
I’ll be at Qbar later, btw, cavorting with Fee.
Pop in after 6 if you’d like to harrass me.
Unless you’re attending a Republican meeting (a little bird tweeted)
Yes, it’s one of those ac_dropout invites for anyone. I’m not wearing white.
Course the humor is only funny if you believe that we invaded Iraq only because of wmds and that no one else except George W. believed that he had them.
Well my dear man, what else would you have us believe?
(i) If WMDs weren’t the only reason for the invasion then why did the Administration repeatedly list them along with all their other reasons during the months leading up to the war?
(ii) As for your inference that GWB was far from alone in believing that Iraq had WMD, I assume you are referring to the intelligence agencies of the United States as well as France, Germany, Britain etc. (all of whom thought that he had them even if they disagreed on the quantities, stages of development and best methods for getting rid of them.) You are probably aslo referring to Saddam Hussein himself. Well, to that I just say that ahh… Yes, well… um… none of those … you know… count. Yes. None of those count. Bush was the only one who believed it. End of discussion.
A photo from TV shows naked prisoners positioned in a human pyramid. Photo: Sky News
-from Photos show jail abuse by US troops
[quote=“Monty Python, Episode 32*”]…Sir John:
Ah, hello. Well first of all I’d like to apologize for the behaviour of certain of my colleagues you may have seen earlier, but they are from broken homes, circus families and so on and they are in no way representative of the new modern improved British Navy. They are a small vociferous minority; and may I take this opportunity of emphasizing that there is no cannibalism in the British Navy. Absolutely none, and when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount, more than we are prepared to admit, but all new ratings are warned that if they wake up in the morning and find any toothmarks at all anywhere on their bodies, they’re to tell me immediately so that I can immediately take every measure to hush the whole thing up. And, finally, necrophilia is right out. …[/quote]
*-courtesy of Billmon’s Whiskey Bar
Sept. 11 Could Not Have Been Prevented Without Accruing A Lot Of Overtime
Esteemed members of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States, good afternoon. As National Security Advisor, my job is to coordinate the efforts of America’s intelligence and defense agencies and report directly to the president. I was, and continue to be, in a unique position to understand the threats and dangers our nation faces. It is with utmost confidence and sincerity that I assure each and every one of you that there was no way the federal government could have prevented the horrific events of Sept. 11 without accruing an enormous amount of overtime. …
…In order to identify and apprehend the Sept. 11 hijackers before they struck, our agents would have had to have logged thousands of hours of the most mundane intelligence analysis. Consider, for example, the logistics of implementing the three-phase strategy to eliminate al-Qaeda. It involved a mission to the Taliban in Afghanistan, increased diplomatic pressure, and increased covert action. It would have been very expensive. The covert action would have entailed the time-consuming translation from Arabic of e-mails, phone transcripts, and bugged conversations. Arabic is an extremely difficult language that only a small number of government employees know. Completing the translations might have involved flying capable employees in from great distances.
Once a series of conversations has been translated, analysts must wade through endless pages of talk of dinner dates, computer purchases, travel plans, and weather reports, searching for anything of national-security interest. Each conversation must not just be recorded, transcribed, translated, and read. It must also be analyzed and formed into a report, which must be typed and copied and collated. Then the report must be discussed, and if action is deemed necessary… You see where I’m going here. We’re talking about a massive accrual of hours in all levels of government, top to bottom.
The worst part is, 999 times out of 1,000, the operatives come up with nothing. It’s very hard to pay people time-and-a-half when they can’t tell you the exact location, date, and method of an imminent terrorist attack. But, considering the high priority President Bush placed on counterterrorism from the day he took office, I assure you that we would not have hesitated to schedule the overtime hours, had we known that a massive terrorist attack was definitely going to happen.
Yes, Mr. Tenet and his top deputies did receive a briefing paper labeled “Islamic Extremist Learns To Fly” in mid-August. Yes, an in-depth investigation of Zacarias Moussaoui might have led the government to the al-Qaeda cell in Germany that planned the Sept. 11 attacks, but the fact remains that we can never be sure. I believe that, during investigations such as this, it’s important to stick with what we do know. Ladies and gentlemen: Had that lead been followed, a lot of people would’ve been working a lot of very long hours.
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millions of jobs, and our military would be totally overstretched. You
know what? I did vote for Al Gore, he did win, and I’ll be damned if
all those things didn’t come true.” – James Carville
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[quote=“Chewycorns”]
[quote]Al Franken is an idiot, but Limbaugh is an even bigger idiot. I don’t have much respect for Michael Moore either. I think these people discredit the left with their half-truths and sentimental garbage. I especially dislike Moore for his tirade against Charleton Heston in
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[quote]Wood agrees that humor varies from country to country.
“Americans, because we are individualistic and confident, tend to do a lot of put-down humor,” she said.
“It’s a big deal for the British; they believe it breaks tension,” said Hodge. “But their sense of comedy is different. They use more irony, which Americans may mistake for sarcasm.”
Ethnic or gender-related humor is still acceptable in some parts of the world, but in U.S. business meetings and presentations, you’ve got to keep it clean.
“That means no off-color jokes,” said Hodge. “Sometimes Europeans make sexual innuendo jokes, but that doesn’t go over well with Americans. And ethnic jokes are out.”
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Total B.S.
Cableguy:
The problem as has already been posted was that Michael Moore took a quote from Heston in that same city. Problem is that Heston made that speech one year BEFORE the tragedy occurred. That is the problem people have with his movies. What do you think about that? Should I take a quote that you made one year ago about a different subject and splice it into this thread to make you look ridiculous? Would that be fair? honest? ethical? and still count as a documentary?
Just curious.
[quote=“fred smith”]Cableguy:
The problem as has already been posted was that Michael Moore took a quote from Heston in that same city. Problem is that Heston made that speech one year BEFORE the tragedy occurred. That is the problem people have with his movies. What do you think about that? Should I take a quote that you made one year ago about a different subject and splice it into this thread to make you look ridiculous? Would that be fair? honest? ethical? and still count as a documentary?
Just curious.[/quote]
Just curious if you’ve actually even SEEN Bowling for Columbine.
[quote]The Truth: Heston took his NRA show to Denver and did and said exactly what we recounted. From the end of my narration setting up Heston’s speech in Denver, with my words, “a big pro-gun rally,” every word out of Charlton Heston’s mouth was uttered right there in Denver, just 10 days after the Columbine tragedy. But don’t take my word
Ah yes, that is Michael Moore’s account of it. We have, however, the Wall Street Journal and even Slate I believe or spinsanity or one of those sites that detail all of the factual lapases in Michael Moore’s movie most closely. Do we need to track all of this down and repost it again or can you flip back and get it yourself?
I repeat: Have you seen the film, Fred?
How would seeing the film necessarily enable one to understand the inaccuracies contained therein? Wouldn’t one need to do the research and look at sites such as your favorite… 
Spinsanity in order to understand?
spinsanity.org/columns/20021119.html
spinsanity.org/post.html?200 … chive.html
From, of all places, today’s San Francisco Chronicle.
MICHAEL MOORE, the polemic filmmaker who likes to wear his "progressive’’ politics on his plaid sleeves, has made a fortune from bashing doyens of corporate greed. But apparently the provocative Moore doesn’t mind the perks of celebrity – even when they bear the label of big-time corporate America.
Moore recently touched down in California as part of his national book tour. He’s traveling in style – in a private jet provided by Time Warner, and in SUVs courtesy of his publisher, Warner Books. The company also threw in some bodyguards – as we know from his movies, America is a pretty darn dangerous place.
For his part, Moore sees no contradiction between his private life and his public image, suggesting that the only reason he’s feeding at the corporate trough is because it’s there. "I would never pay for this,’’ Moore told the Los Angeles Times, adding that the irony is not lost on him.
When you make your living bashing malicious corporate CEOs, it’s best not to remind people that you’re using giant media companies to carry your message.
After all, the bottom line is all about profits, not prophets
AND
But that’s all old news, and though delving deeper into it would be fun, there’s more recent horse manure to muck out of the stall. A climactic scene of Moore’s new tastetlessly named flick involves one of his trademark deceptive interviews, this time with National Rifle Association president Charleton Heston. You may seek the details of this scene yourself, but the non-sequitur gist is that Moore ends up 0wning @ll 0v3r Mr. Heston by showing him a picture of a dead child, apparently killed with a gun. Have you ever seen those “interviews” that comedians such as “Weird Al” Yankovic create by taking actual footage of answers from celebrity interviews and preceding them with their own wacky questions that make the original answers seem ironic and hilarious?
How would seeing the film necessarily enable one to understand the inaccuracies contained therein? Wouldn’t one need to do the research and look at sites such as your favorite… Spinsanity in order to understand?[/quote]
I reckon the reason you two are debunking this film so avidly is because it makes you uncomfortable. So, have you seen it? I often watch distasteful things, like CNN. Spinsanity is quite good, yes. But I believe it’s important for one to have actually SEEN a film they despise before protesting it. Your actions kind of remind me of those Bible thumpers who protested Life of Brian, one of the more prophetic films of our age.
