Is jellyfish considered meat? Sea anemone? Both are very basal members of the animal kingdom, from even before the split between protostomes (insects, molluscs, etc.) and deuterostomes (vertebrates, echinoderms, etc.).
Really? I had never heard anyone not call seafood meat until i came here. In Naapn i was shocked.
Yes, insects are meat a well.
This is why i am asking, in the sense of eating food.
I always found it interesting that some places and some people dont follow the norm of animal = meat. This is quite important in countries like here where vegetarianism is quite important to large percentages of the population.
No vegetarian eats fish, bugs or snails. They have other, fancier, names for that.
The grey are seems to be non meat animal products like eggs and milk. hence the word vegan, not eating anythung to do with an animal. Or even buying leather etc. Vegetarian seems to be accepted to have dairy, eggs etc. I wonder about the logic of thatcas well given that no animal product is strictly vegetarian based. Just base on basic biology.
I suppose my question could be asked further. If fish, crustaceans, insects etc are not meat, do people consider them vegetables? I was shocked in Japan to see them essentially think so.
Post it again then. This absplutely touches on philosophy, language, religion and science. It would be borin as all hell if we all just agreed animals = meat in the food sense.
When I plan what Iām going to cook for a meal, I think of a carb (rice, pasta, bread, farro), a veg (salad, carrots, broccoli, tomatoā¦), and a protein (chicken, pork, beef, fish, tofu, egg, lentilsā¦). The veg has protein. The carb might even (probably) have protein. But I think of the things I posted as my protein, as in āwhat will keep me full longest?ā. Protein powder does not a meal make.
I know lots that choose rodebts
The term protein isnt helpful either in this case as it doesnt distinguish between life forms. Tofu is vegetarian, meat isnt.
I am however, all for saying plant based or something similar and meat based. Or animal based. But people are sensitive and feel hypocritical when we call what they eat by a name we respect like animal. Thats why meat seems useful to describe animal bodies as food. Regardless of species.
Personally, I just think āwhat do I want to eat today?ā. Or I might look in my fridge and think āI reckon I could make such-and-such with thatā.
Thereās a persistent idea among nutritionists that our bodies basically donāt work properly and, if we donāt meter food into them very carefully, we will turn purple and explode, or wither away and die. All of their instructions revolve around carbs, protein and fat, as if nothing else is important.
You can draw strong parallels with agriculturalists laying down rules about NPK, completely ignoring the ecosystem in which plants live and their inherent abilities to get things right for themselves, given half a chance.
I saw a documentary where an organic farmer never even weeded and left 50% of the harvest for the soil. His vegetables looked great and their nutrient content blew competitors away. I wish I could find a book or something with all the details.
I agree. Thereās no need to plan meals or make sure you have protein, fat and carbs in each meal. Just surround yourself with healthy foods and your body will tell you.
A lot of the names for the meat we eat comes from Old French. So, the Anglo-Saxon slaves butchered cows and pigs to serve their new Norman masters beef and pork.
Unfortunately farming is a bit like cabinetry; it doesnāt translate well into books. Sure you can write down the broad outlines, but a lot of it just boils down to experience. Just as medicine and engineering involve a large dose of āartā, so does farming.
Iām actually attempting a book on the subject, since (surprisingly enough) no such thing exists for tropical climates. At least not collected together in one volume. Itās turning out to be pretty difficult, for the reason just mentioned.
Iām literally ALWAYS hungry. I will finish a huge meal, and within ten minutes im looking for food again. Iām also very tall and underweight. More than a few different doctors suggested I make sure im getting enough protein. Im still hungry all the time, but I do find myself less exhausted when I make sure I get enough protein.
Also, having a carb+veg+protein formula helps when I canāt think of what to cook. It gives me a place to start
Agreed. This was a simple question with multiple complex answers.
I voted āyesā fish is meat, because thatās what I used to argue with my large Catholic family. They would tell me āOf course itās not meat, itās FISH!ā And I would argue āItās the flesh of an animal! Why would you exclude that from the category of meat?ā
The answer simply depends upon oneās cultural assumptions, language, religion, philosophy, and, um ⦠method of scientific definition? In other words, not simple at all.
When I think of having a meal, I include fish in the mental category of all those animals I might want to eat. But when discussing dinner with others Iāve been known to make a distinction between meat and seafood, because thatās what the listener expects.