Pregnancies that result from rape are "something God intended."

They had me going for a while. I might have even broken a sweat. Romney was catching up. In the popular vote (though not really in the electoral vote). But today, less than two weeks before the vote, the Republicans returned to their true form.

A Republican candidate for Senate has been putting forth that ‘pregnancies that result from rape are “something God intended.”’ And Romney backs the guy. They really know how to lock down the women vote! Really got some brilliant campaign strategists there Mitt.

You can’t make this stuff up. I’ll start spending my Intrade winnings now. Even my 25:1 bets on a Democratic House are going to come in now. Amazing. Buh-bye Republicans… and thanks for playing! After all, losing the election is also “something God intended”…

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Gotta love the Rapepublicans

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Wasn’t there some asshat a few months ago claiming that if a “real” rape happened, then the female victim’s body had natural ways of dealing with the trauma?

As for Mourdock, he is obviously a fucktard of the first order by suggesting that God abhors violence.
God loves violence!

This news needs to be spread far and wide, especially if the MSM isn’t reporting on it.

Um, there aren’t any indications that the Republicans are going to lose the House. All of the polls and statistical models show an extremely high chance Republicans maintaining the majority. I wouldn’t start spending those “winnings” just yet…

Republicans believe that a fertilized human egg is a human, so it makes sense they wouldn’t allow abortions in the case of rape. After all, the circumstances of the conception aren’t relevant if life really begins at conception. Also, most Christians people that everything that happens is God’s will, good or bad. It’s all part of God’s master plan. This Republican’s statement is internally consistent with his beliefs.

Anyways, back in the real world, the policy result of those beliefs are that Republicans want to use the power of the state to force rape victims, against their will, to have their rapists’ babies. Let freedom ring.

More on this from Cenk Uygur:

I am just so glad I don’t live in a country where these clowns have a 50-50 chance of running the show. At least in Taiwan politicians are largely content to just throw chairs at each other.

Why do Republicans believe that??? It’s a political party right? Not a sect.

Hahah who knew Christians were fatalists too?

More like a cult.

Cenk tells it like it is.

Read yesterday’s 538 GBH? A lengthy post about “prediction markets” otherwise known as “bookies” :slight_smile:

Colbert is my man
Colbert rocks
he is awefrikkinsum

first he Tells trump to…

then for the thread in question he says

Cool!!!

Cenk tells it like it is.[/quote]
Yup. He’s a liberal who isn’t afraid to be called a liberal, yet at the same time he levels his criticisms at anyone, left or right, who deserves it.

:thumbsup:

[quote=“Gao Bohan”]Republicans believe that a fertilized human egg is a human, so it makes sense they wouldn’t allow abortions in the case of rape. After all, the circumstances of the conception aren’t relevant if life really begins at conception. Also, most Christians people that everything that happens is God’s will, good or bad. It’s all part of God’s master plan. This Republican’s statement is internally consistent with his beliefs.

Anyways, back in the real world, the policy result of those beliefs are that Republicans want to use the power of the state to force rape victims, against their will, to have their rapists’ babies. Let freedom ring.[/quote]

“Republicans” belive no such thing. Some Christians do. Some Republicans do. And likely some Democrats do too. The idea that identification with one of the two predominant political parties, or even voting for a particular candidate automatically indicates that one is for or against some stated policy, adheres to some specific set of beliefs, or is in lockstep agreement with absolutely everything the candidate or the party says is overly simplistic.

Yeah, the two (Republican politicans) who recently commented on “legitimate rape” and “pregnancy from rape as God’s will” are fools and are being rightly called on their statements but broadly sweeping statements about Republicans in general believing in “life at conception” are off base. I’d add that being a Republican or even voting Republican does not automatically mean one opposes Roe V Wade (forcing victims of rape or incest to bear the reslulting children).

These lunatics are the mainstream of the GOP these days. Moderate Republicans are a quickly vanishing contingent, as Grover Norquist “primaries” anyone who doesn’t meet his purity tests, sign his pledges, and toe the new party line.

No? Very odd then, that they would choose to state as such in their 2012 platform.

[quote=“Republican Party Platform 2012”]Faithful to the “self-evident” truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion or fund organizations which perform or advocate it and will not fund or subsidize health care which includes abortion coverage. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life. We oppose the non-consensual withholding or withdrawal of care or treatment, including food and water, from people with disabilities, including newborns, as well as the elderly and infirm, just as we oppose active and passive euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Republican leadership has led the effort to prohibit the barbaric practice of partial-birth abortion and permitted States to extend health care coverage to children before birth. We urge Congress to strengthen the Born Alive Infant Protection Act by enacting appropriate civil and criminal penalties on healthcare providers who fail to provide treatment and care to an infant who survives an abortion, including early induction delivery where the death of the infant is intended. We call for legislation to ban sex-selective abortions – gender discrimination in its most lethal form – and to protect from abortion unborn children who are capable of feeling pain; and we applaud U.S. House Republicans for leading the effort to protect the lives of pain-capable unborn children in the District of Columbia. We call for a ban on the use of body parts from aborted fetuses for research. We support and applaud adult stem cell research to develop lifesaving therapies, and we oppose the killing of embryos for their stem cells. We oppose federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

We also salute the many States that have passed laws for informed consent, mandatory waiting periods prior to an abortion, and health-protective clinic regulation. We seek to protect young girls from exploitation through a parental consent requirement; and we affirm our moral obligation to assist, rather than penalize, women challenged by an unplanned pregnancy. We salute those who provide them with counseling and adoption alternatives and empower them to choose life, and we take comfort in the tremendous increase in adoptions that has followed Republican legislative initiatives.[/quote]

I realize that the Republican Party, as one of only two major parties in a country of over 300 million, is a coalition. However, I think it is fair to generalize about Republican beliefs based on their platform, just as it is far to generalize about Democratic beliefs based on their platform. The whole point of the platform is summarize the majority view of the party and let voters know what kind of policies the party will enact if its members are elected.

Built right into the platform is the goal of appointing pro-life judges. If Mitt Romney is elected, he is likely to have the chance to replace at least two Democratic appointees, and the possibility of Roe v. Wade being overturned would become very real. So, I don’t think it’s particularly relevant that a minority of Republicans are pro-choice. We know what the party’s goals are, and even pro-choice Republicans have signed on, by virtue of being members of that party.

See the Democratic Convention of 2012 and specifically the votes on inclusion of the word “God” and reference to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Is it fair to say that majority of the delgates at the convention were in lock-step suport of every aspect of the platform either before or after the changes given the debate on just these two issues? Not likely. Both positions were altered when the powers that be realized that excluding “God” and excluding reference to Jerusalem as the capital were going to be problematic. The floor vote for including the “God” reference had to be taken 3 times because the speaker was not able to determine whether the “ayes” or “nayes” predominated (that doesn’t sound like a majority of anything). It was a political decision and it is a political document.

Sweeping generalizations take what is unique in all of us - the nuance, the inconsistencies, the personal history etc. and reduce it to nothing. And then we are left in our respective corners shouting and throwing rocks at each other (kind of like Crossfire).

There are currently 2 Republican Senators and 6 Republicans House Representatives who are pro-choice. There are 45 pro-life Republican Senators and 234 pro-life Republicans House Representatives. That means 97% of currently serving Republican Senators and Congressmen are pro-life. Governor Romney is pro-life, has declared he will nominate pro-life judges, and has stated he would sign a bill outlawing abortions. Amending the constitution to ban all abortions is a plank in the Republican platform. Abortion isn’t a minor issue for Republicans like the capital of Jerusalem is for Democrats. It is a central issue that has dominated Republican social philosophy for decades. State Republicans passed nearly 1000 bills restricting access to abortions, imposing invasive ultrasounds that neither doctors nor patients want, and banning certain forms of contraception. I think I’m fairly safe in my “sweeping generalization”, as you put it.

In the context of a political discussion, I don’t really care about personal nuances. The question is what policies will a candidate support if elected, or what policies do elected politicians currently support and what are they likely to support in the future. The Republican Party is hell-bent on banning abortion, and a Romney win in November may lay the groundwork since he will likely be in a place to appoint Supreme Court judges. If Republicans end up controlling the House, Senate, and White House all together, they may federalize state laws restricting access to abortions and some forms of contraception.

If the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade and the Republicans manage to get a bill banning all abortion onto Romney’s desk, do you really think he’ll veto it because he is personally in favor of a few exclusions? That seems very doubtful to me. Again, the question is policy, not personal nuances and inconsistencies.

Hey, look, the guy said that “God intended it”, so there’s an instant loss of credibility.

We shouldn’t let imaginary beings tell us what to do, and of course nor should we vote for people who think like that.

Um, there aren’t any indications that the Republicans are going to lose the House. All of the polls and statistical models show an extremely high chance Republicans maintaining the majority. I wouldn’t start spending those “winnings” just yet…[/quote]

election.princeton.edu/2012/10/2 … vel-advice estimated yesterday Democrats have a 3:1 to 6:1 chance of taking the House. The Rapublicans on Intrade were offering me 25:1. I got five on it. Well, more like $75. What do I have to lose? God’s on my side…

This just in: G.O.P. Split Over Whether to Emphasize Misogyny or Racism: nyr.kr/Y3zhAO

[quote]NEW HAMPSHIRE (The Borowitz Report)—With less than two weeks to go until Election Day, there is a deep divide among Republican leaders over whether to emphasize misogyny or racism as the campaign’s closing theme.
In one camp is the Indiana Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, who says that his view that God is sometimes O.K. with rape is “gaining real traction with a key demographic: men who don’t like women very much.”
“I can’t tell you how many misogynists have come up to me at my rallies and said, ‘Thank you for saying what you said,’ ” he told reporters today. “I think they’re like, finally, someone’s taking a more nuanced position on rape.”
But in the other camp is the former New Hampshire governor John Sununu, who worries that the Republican Party’s emphasis on misogyny is threatening to drown out its “winning message of racism.”
“I understand the appeal of Mourdock’s anti-woman theme, but I worry that it’s going to overshadow our core value of racism, which is still our best shot at winning this thing,” he said. “In politics, you’ve got to dance with the one who brung you.”
Hoping to heal a possible rift with so little time left until Election Day, the R.N.C. chairman Reince Priebus said today that there is room for both views in today’s Republican Party: “Our ‘big tent’ message to voters should be this: come for the misogyny, stay for the racism.”
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