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[image] Brianjones: Who cares Look up ATPS System on Google, it’s something completely different. I care being given the wrong information.

OK fair enough …If it was another system. Otherwise everybody knows what I mean.

[image] hansioux: While it is easy for us to see the train was going too fast from a fixed position, I believe it is much more difficult for those on the train to notice their actual speed without the aid of instruments. While that may be true to an extent, you would also certainly gain exper…

[image] tempogain: I’ve never driven a train but I find it hard to believe you couldn’t detect excess speed going into a known curve you’ve probably driven through 100 times I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it turns out the driver was dicking around on his phone.

Not at all. It seems pretty inexplicable

While thing reminds me of the Malbone Street Disaster. That was caused by an incompetent driver, not sure what kind of experience this guy had [image] Malbone Street wreck The Malbone Street wreck, also known as the Brighton Beach Line accident, was a rapid transit railroad accident tha…

Exactly, anyone who has driven a car knows you can tell the difference between 80kph and 140kph, it is not necessary to see a speedometer for such a vast difference in speed, we are not talking a difference of 10kph but a huge difference here. If there was doubt about the reported speed then the fi…

While Puyuma and Taroko trains are quieter than the Tze Chiang trains, there is still that rhythmic sound as the wheels go over the tracks. Sounds, visual cues as you pass electricity poles, and general feel. Hmmmm.

[image] marasan: there is still that rhythmic sound as the wheels go over the tracks Even if welded tracks?

There are plenty of poles that hold up the electrical wires. I seem to remember a video about train drivers in Tokyo using visual ques like that to judge speed.

Puyuma train derailed in Yilan (21 October 2018)

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tempogain October 23, 2018, 7:28am 242

While thing reminds me of the Malbone Street Disaster. That was caused by an incompetent driver, not sure what kind of experience this guy had