Rugby: 2010 Tri-Nations, Currie Cup and NZ ITM

[quote=“sungazza”]An insightful analysis of Allain Rowland’s handling of the recent Tri-Nations encounter between SA and NZ …

youtube.com/watch?v=pdr-W775 … ture=email

I realise that not getting penalized is a skill, that McCaw and co. have perfected, and that NZ would have won with even the most unbiased ref,
but this type of refereering robs all of a fair contest[/quote]

It’s been going on for years. Even in Wallabies matches all blacks players have tacked defending wallabies off the back of the ruck from offside positions and are getting away with it.

But you have to play to the refs. Start sacking more refs after performances like that and the games will be a more even contest when proper refereeing standards are there.

to STV and sungazza … :loco:

only insightful if you are one eyed without knowledge of rugby laws :smiley: . Look on the page below the video, there is a rebuttal according to the actual laws of rugby.

Plain fact is, despite all your boring whinging about refs (there’s always something to whinge about, or meaninglessly slag off the Al Blacks for RWC failures despite us winning about 90 % of other matches, and have 8-0 over the Wallabies (etc)):

Your teams have to improve your skills and execution, the All Blacks are (and almost always do) playing much better rugby, and I’m glad to watch it.

Shouldn’t that be “tossers”?
I’m going for an All Black win but closer than last week; 32 to 21.

Seeing as Sat TV is a Taiwanese citizen perhaps he would qualify as a neutral and be able to referee a game. :slight_smile:

Shouldn’t that be “tossers”?
I’m going for an All Black win but closer than last week; 32 to 21.

Seeing as Sat TV is a Taiwanese citizen perhaps he would qualify as a neutral and be able to referee a game. :slight_smile:[/quote]
Well, you’re not a tosser more a sheep shagger. Since his screen name is tosser pete, I took some license…I picked a 17 point win.

As far as STV reffing as game? First he’d have to learn the laws of the game. Since he quoted sungazza uncritically, I have to assume he is just as clueless. :wink:

STV, I’m still a fan of ya despite your silly trolling about rugby. :sunglasses:

Sorry mate, it’s closer to a 72-75% overall win ratio. The All Blacks have the best win ratio and the Boks are second with 66/65%.
Although, I did see a stat once that in the 90 tests Sean Fitzpatrick played, they only lost ten tests.
Last year they had a 0% win ration against the Boks, but still managed to arse rape the Wallabies. :roflmao:

Alternative Rugby Commentary
Go listen to the commentary there! F*cking awesome!!! :bravo:

Biz, it depends on the era, but under Ted it’s about 90%. Splitting hairs.

Thanks for the link, here are some gems form the last 10 mins:

[quote]polynesian australian front rowers
4 dollars for a sausage, good sausages
nothing like a good lamb shank, wnk
snatched by the little fatty
kaplan having a chat to the ABs, that’s just not on
mils gives it the good old f
ck off down there kick
Dean Bum
Gitto saying what the f*ck are we going to do, it’s relentless
[/quote]
:laughing: :bravo:

[quote=“bismarck”]Alternative Rugby Commentary
Go listen to the commentary there! F*cking awesome!!! :bravo:[/quote]
Heheheheh! :thumbsup:

Which is why I said overall stats. And that 10% loss ratio is probably 6% against the Boks, and 4% against everyone else…

[quote=“Kea”]Thanks for the link, here are some gems form the last 10 mins:

[quote]polynesian australian front rowers
4 dollars for a sausage, good sausages
nothing like a good lamb shank, wnk
snatched by the little fatty
kaplan having a chat to the ABs, that’s just not on
mils gives it the good old f
ck off down there kick
Dean Bum
Gitto saying what the fck are we going to do, it’s relentless
[/quote]
:laughing: :bravo:[/quote]
Glad you like it. They’re having me in stitiches. “Jerome Kaino the Polynesian god” to which Sambo responds, “Is he really a god in Polynesia?” :roflmao:
Mitchell running like it’s his own wallet.
The Aussies did away with the Apartheid system in 1968, but it was still illegal to be an Aboriginal in the Northern Territories until 1973.
That was just f
cking awful. Giteau saying “What the f*ck just happened?”
Sambo: He’s called Bam Bam.
Jed: Bam Bam and Pocock? It’s rape anyway you look at it.

Brilliant stuff!

[quote=“jimipresley”][quote=“bismarck”]Alternative Rugby Commentary
Go listen to the commentary there! F*cking awesome!!! :bravo:[/quote]
Heheheheh! :thumbsup:[/quote]
:thumbsup: Enjoy it, mate.

Well nice rear end hit on an Aussie trying to get away from the ruck. We know those AB’s like to come in from the rear end.

Ok we got the penalty but with an unncessary dangerous tackle like that from behind should have been a yellow card imho.

Still the AB’s played really good defense and the Wallabies not quite there to open them up yet.

A much better performance and pretty good refereeing. Kaplan is one of the best refs in the world.

Seemed to me that the Aussies didn’t have the confidence to win it. They have the talent, though. Lost too many scrums and own line-outs, shocking passes into touch, knock-ons and just general piss poor handling from the Criminal Element. They did do superb in defense, and played much better than last week. The All Blacks just made less mistakes, and generally played a good brand of rugby. :thumbsup:

The ABs still went offside a lot and loitered in the off side zone at the ruck, but this only lasted for the first ten minutes. Then the Aussies started pushing them away, pushing over them and played them on side forcing penalties. Excellent counter tactic IMO. I hope PdV was taking note.

The ref was good, the ARC commentary was awesome and overall the game was good to watch. Two thumbs up to both sides. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[quote=“Satellite TV”]Well nice rear end hit on an Aussie trying to get away from the ruck. We know those AB’s like to come in from the rear end. :unamused:

Ok we got the penalty but with an unncessary dangerous tackle like that from behind should have been a yellow card imho.

Still the AB’s played really good defense and the Wallabies not quite there to open them up yet.

A much better performance and pretty good refereeing. Kaplan is one of the best refs in the world.[/quote]
Agree that the reffing was better in this match. However, there were many incorrect decisions nonetheless. Aussies probably got the rub of the green on that one, but no worries it’s a fast match. Some examples-LOs consistently not straight, tackle infringements, guys off their feet. No complaints from me, the better team won and Aussies gave it a good crack.

Well played to both teams, a hard fought match. Aussies, as I have suspected, are right up there and may get an away win in SA. Pocock is near McCaw in awesomeness, great play even after clearly injured.

Conditions seemed a bit slow and bit cold for a fast game (night time rugby in NZ is unwise, but they do it for SKY Europe viewers)-see all the heavy breathing, combined with the long phases.

Mate, enough with the whinging. :unamused: Fair enough, Woodcock should probably get cited for that dumb play-more uncoordinated than evil, but every post you keep moaning. You probably listen to the stupid biased Aussie commentators disputing every call against Aussie, and moaning as if they were being cheated even when they got the decision. :roflmao: :loco: :raspberry:

That will very much depend on the selection Coach Whackhead De Villiers comes up with.

Perhaps he could try Spies on outside center to partner Olivier. Move Steyn to Full Back. Give Januarie another crack at Scrumhalf with Pienaar on Flyhalf, because he may still not be convinced RJ is shite. While he’s at it, he may as well give Matfield a run at no.8, and give the Bulls locks (up and coming youngsters a go). I reckon he may as well leave Tendai out again, give Smit another go at loosehead, give Steenkamp a look see as hooker and bring Os back for a look at tighthead. Shit, why not just recall ole Watson for another run on the flank? Right wing, you say? Why not give Schalk a look see? Failing that, he could also just give the team that got thrashed by Leicester last year another run… :cactus:

Anything’s possible with this f***ing idiot.

It was such a nice two weeks of Tri-Nations for me, and now it’s back to worrying about PdV clownishness for another three weeks.

Moaning? No, I just said I thought it deserved a yellow card and many of my friends who saw the game including some Kiwis thought so as well, especially as Kaplan had earlier warned the AB’s captain in the first half with another " final warning" that any more things like that then a card would be issued. That fact is that other teams get finals warnings and then yellow cards and the AB’s get final warnings then 2 or 3 more final warnings and no cards. That is not moaning it is quite factual.

The AB’s played with a full strength team against the Wallabies still missing 7 key players. SO we are getting there.

Still you won’t mind next year when the Wobblies do the unexpected and walk away with the RWC :discodance: :discodance:

Don’t count your chickens…

Moaning? No, I just said I thought it deserved a yellow card and many of my friends who saw the game including some Kiwis thought so as well, especially as Kaplan had earlier warned the AB’s captain that any more things like that then a card would be issued.

The AB’s played with a full strength team against the Wallabies still missing 7 key players. SO we are getting there.

Still you won’t mind next year when the Wobblies do the unexpected and walk away with the RWC :discodance: :discodance:[/quote]
Who surprised me the most tonite was Beale. He has been pony and trap in every game I’ve seen him in, tonite he seemed steady and had confidence. If the Crims can find a ball-running No.8 (Kefu-like) and keep Gits at 12, they will be canary yellow, I mean gold come the 2011 RWC. Every time the cameras went to the Aust bench, and I saw that headgear, I had to do a double take and thank the Lord it was potentially Barnes and not Steven Larkam about to come on.Tonite, Oz missed a player who could break thru the back line defensive line, Mitchell was good, but didn’t run close enough to the ruck. A team with Cooper, Gits, AAC, Shepard/JOC, Mitchell and Beale playing outside Genia, a competitive group of fatties and David ‘did someone just kill G Smith and Phil Waugh and inject me with the best of their combined strengths’ Pocock nicking the loose ball, the Crims should feel pretty good going into next years RWC. I doubt that they will win more than one more game in the 2010 3Ns, but they’ll at least make the 2011 RWC semis ( hope ABs do too).
The ABs were better tonite, but not by all that much. I’m glad the ABs won a close game.It could have gone either way.
Both teams will do well to win more than one more game in the 3Ns, fortunately the ABs only need one more win to wrap up the 3Ns. Once that is done and dusted, I almost hope that Cartier,Mcawe,Thorn and Smith,Mils,Kevie get rested til next year and the AB coaches play the young fellas for the rest of the AB internationals.Guys like Slade and Dagg,Boric/Whitelock need a chance and someone has to deputize McAwe (Braid,Vito,Thomson…who knows).
Woodcock will get justifiably suspended. I noticed Thorn also involved in some nasty cleaning-out around the fringe of the maul.

Don’t count your chickens…[/quote]

Any team apart from the AB’s winning is fine by me :smiley:

[quote=“Wandering”] I almost hope that Cartier,Mcawe,Thorn and Smith,Mils,Kevie get rested til next year and the AB coaches play the young fellas for the rest of the AB internationals.Guys like Slade and Dagg,Boric/Whitelock need a chance and someone has to deputize McAwe (Braid,Vito,Thomson…who knows).

Woodcock will get justifiably suspended. I noticed Thorn also involved in some nasty cleaning-out around the fringe of the maul.[/quote]

YEs good idea the last time they rested the AB’s for the world cup you got done in. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

[quote=“bismarck”]

It was such a nice two weeks of Tri-Nations for me, and now it’s back to worrying about PdV clownishness for another three weeks.[/quote]
Ah, the fickle SA rugby crowd. Dominate world rugby for a coupla years, then lose a match or two and your arse is cheese. :unamused:

[quote=“Satellite TV”][quote=“Wandering”] I almost hope that Cartier,Mcawe,Thorn and Smith,Mils,Kevie get rested til next year and the AB coaches play the young fellas for the rest of the AB internationals.Guys like Slade and Dagg,Boric/Whitelock need a chance and someone has to deputize McAwe (Braid,Vito,Thomson…who knows).

Woodcock will get justifiably suspended. I noticed Thorn also involved in some nasty cleaning-out around the fringe of the maul.[/quote]

YEs good idea the last time they rested the AB’s for the world cup you got done in. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:[/quote]
And the last time we didn’t rest them we got done :blush: And the time before that we got done :aiyo: And the time before that we got SUZYED :fume: