SIPGATE (VoIP)

The following information is in reference to the thread “Magic Jack (VoIP)”

For people looking for an easy-to-use IP phone service provider that you can use without requiring a computer,
there is SIPGATE:
sipgate.com/ if you want a phone number in the US
sipgate.co.uk/user/index.php if you want a phone number in the UK
sipgate.de/user/index.php (with German interface) if you want a phone number in Germany

I use SIPGATE almost almost the same way other people use Magic Jack (as described in the referenced thread); the one difference being that i don’t use (don’t need to use) a computer - instead i use a router.

How exactly does this work? When i travel, i take along a small router that contains my settings, a short ethernet LAN cable, and one of those slim table-top/wall-mount phone sets that you can get anywhere for about $10. I plug the router into the LAN of the place where i stay (every halfway decent business hotel in Japan has LAN access in the rooms nowadays), and the phone gets plugged into the router. Ready to go.

And when i am at home i plug that router into my own LAN, of course.

On the other hand, it is possible to use SIPGATE via a computer, exactly like Magic Jack, by plugging in a USB handset like the one shown here:
echostore.com/skype-handset-black.html

I pay by the minute (less than 2c/min across the US and Canada if you register in the US or across Europe if you register in the UK or in Germany) since i don’t have to call abroad that often. My overseas phone bill (calls usually to Europe or Taiwan, occasionally to the US) amounts to less $10 a year, which means i am calling on average less than 35 minutes per month. Incoming calls (via a phone number registered in Germany) are free for me but incur the regular connection charge for those who call me. Voice mail is included free of charge.

SIPGATE also offers flat rates, and if you register in the US you probably end up with an annual fee that is not much different than that you get with Magic Jack (making calls in Europe is more expensive).

By the way, for calls in Japan i use a domestic IP-phone servicer provider, although SIPGATE is a bit cheaper. The reason is that there is a time delay being introduced when using SIPGATE, on account of the calls being routed via Europe, and i don’t want that delay when making calls within the country.

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Hm, do you mean the 60 free minutes for outgoing domestic calls you get when you sign up?
Only calls between Sipgate subscribers are free, all others cost something (though not much).
I mean, i find 2 cents per minute really cheap when i talk to people who live 8-12 time zones away.

You probably know all this, but if there is anybody else wondering about the “free calls” business, here’s something that puts it in perspective:
smartvox.co.uk/sipfaq_free_c … h_voip.htm (last paragraph) and
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_ … ine_Cables :slight_smile:

[quote=“yuli”]Hm, do you mean the 60 free minutes for outgoing domestic calls you get when you sign up?
Only calls between Sipgate subscribers are free, all others cost something (though not much).
I mean, I find 2 cents per minute really cheap when i talk to people who live 8-12 time zones away.

You probably know all this, but if there is anybody else wondering about the “free calls” business, here’s something that puts it in perspective:
smartvox.co.uk/sipfaq_free_c … h_voip.htm (last paragraph) and
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_ … ine_Cables :slight_smile:[/quote]
Do you pay for each search on Google? No, but it certainly costs something to provide the service. They cover the cost, and then some, by advertising.

Companies are going to use “free calls” to get your attention on their other services. Companies in the US will bundle unlimited domestic calling, for example, if you sign up for their broadband and cable TV service. Google Voice is free because they want your attention on their web pages.

I have no idea how MagicJack can provide unlimited calling to/from the US/Canada for only $20/year. I have no idea how Sipgate offers free incoming calls.(Actually, it’s probably from the connect fees the other phone companies pay when they call a Sipgate number.) I have no idea how sip sorcery does what they do for no cost to users. But for now, I’m going to use all of the above.

MagicJack certainly makes perfect sense if the people you usually call live in the US - i seem to recall that you wrote somewhere how you save a few hundred bucks that way. I also like their concept - putting all the necessary software in a USB adapter for maximum portability and convenience - and i would certainly use that thing if i had lots of calls to make to the US. As it happens my international calls are pretty well all to the UK, Germany, or Taiwan, so i get a good deal using Sipgate (in Germany), even if it’s not free.

Vonage has an unlimited calling plan that includes Europe for something like US$25 + tax/month. That would be good for high volume calling to UK and Germany, at least. They have a “World” plan too, but I don’t recall the pricing.

Thanks for that info, Craig! :slight_smile: I’ll check them out if i ever ramp up my call volume to the $25 a month level…

UPDATE:

AT&T finally gave Apple the green light to accept apps that allow VoIP over 3G. So now I can make free phone calls home to the US anywhere I get a 3G signal!!

WOO!!! :discodance:

Psh welcome to like 2 years ago for the jailbroken community =P

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voip International Calling


MagicJack certainly makes perfect sense if the people you usually call live in the US - i seem to recall that you wrote somewhere how you save a few hundred bucks that way. I also like their concept - putting all the necessary software in a USB adapter for maximum portability and convenience - and I would certainly use that thing if I had lots of calls to make to the US. As it happens my international calls are pretty well all to the UK, Germany, or Taiwan, so I get a good deal using Sipgate (in Germany), even if it’s not free.[/quote]

Magic Jack is a low cost way to get voip on your home phone. This really does save alot of money for those who do frequent International Calling. Won’t work for business voip though—the hardware (phones and pbx if you need one) are pretty expensive.

[quote=“CCGilmore”][quote]

Voip Telephone

Magic Jack is a low cost way to get voip on your home phone. This really does save alot of money for those who do frequent International Calling. Won’t work for business voip though—the hardware (phones and pbx if you need one) are pretty expensive.[/quote][/quote]


:notworthy:
I used Magic Jack for over a year and was amazed at the savings on my calls.

Would you be willing to share more details with us, like what kind of router you recommend and what the settings are for Sipgate?

Skype banned Fring and now I have no way to make VoIP calls on my Nexus One, and since I have nearly run out of balance in my Skype account this is a pretty good time to switch VoIP providers.

I am looking to use Sipdroid with Sipgate, but it would be nice to be able to configure a router to make VoIP calls as well, since I have no local landline service in Taipei but do once a while have needs to make calls to other landline numbers. At US$.02 per minute it seems more economical than signing for local phone service.

Have you gotten something lined up in the meantime? I think almost any router of recent vintage that is set up for VoIP service should be OK. Can’t give any advice, since i’ve only used Japanese routers (the one i am using right now is about 10 years old) - but i’ve tried several providers over the years before i settled on Sipgate. (Friends of mine in the US and in Germany are using whatever routers they happen to have around at their end, also with more than one provider, so that’s why i think any decent router will do.)

As regards the settings, they can be had from Sipgate themselves…

[quote=“bsargeant”][quote=“CCGilmore”][quote]

Voip Telephone

Magic Jack is a low cost way to get voip on your home phone. This really does save alot of money for those who do frequent International Calling. Won’t work for business voip though—the hardware (phones and pbx if you need one) are pretty expensive.[/quote][/quote]


:notworthy:
I used Magic Jack for over a year and was amazed at the savings on my calls.[/quote]

I am a avid fan of Magic Jack as well as NetTalk.