Suntan ban

Well, while the cat’s away, the mouse will play.
Obviously while the current EU president, the Reverend Tony Blair, is galavanting around China and India eating spicy food and talking about bras and dishcloths, the bureaucrats at Brussels have more important things to do like banning suntans.

I mean, how can you ban a suntan?

This young barmaids well balanced jugs will have to be covered up to protect her from the harmful effects of radiation - even though she probably sunbathes in her back yard every weekend.

Even if they are forced to ditch their traditional costumes and cover up their assets it wouldn’t be so bad if the EU made them wear full protective PVC outfits, but as usual, the EU is half - hearted.
Oh well, at least ugly British barmaids will be forced to wear something that protects the eyes of the pub-goers.

Traditional costumes aside, this could also spell the demise of the famous British Builders Bum, a combination of jeans and red - raw arse cheeks that provide a cavernous crack from which even light has no escape.

If I want to be mollycoddled I’ll go to my nans house.

Welcome to the socialist EU.

Full, ridiculous story here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,2089-1763988,00.html


*Accidently posted in open instead of American Politics. Move at your discretion but there may be an EU directive preventing the moving of said post.

Sounds like something Canada would start banning soon, especially in the province of BC. Honestly, that’s too much meddling.

And that barmaid looks like Britney Spears. For real.

I don’t think it would matter very much in UK or Canada. They don’t exactly get a lot of sun… and even if the sun were out, you can tan all you want and you won’t feel much heat.

Sorry, just being facetious… seriously, maybe the law has a clause that states a max exposure time limit for certain maximum UV index? Otherwise even this nice Jungfrau at Oktoberfest servicing a Biergarten might need suntan lotion as mentioned in the article, in addition to construction workers, etc. BTW, she’s holding 7 liters of beer! Every time I see them I come away amazed!

Do they give workers-comp for repetitive stress injuries? I mean, 7lts of beer is heavy.

The EU should comsider banning the low-rider jeans that show off the but-crack. It is completely unappetizing and best left to plumbers

Mouse man…sniff. that was about the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen in God’s great universe…

GOD BLESS AMERICA GODDAMIT!

A new market for china … making UV (tan) calculators (or whatever you might call it) … when it beeps, take a one hour break … the EU construction workers Unions could have a new wapon for stikes in this … :laughing:

Bit of an over-reaction there from the normally rational rodent.

First, there’s no ban on tans. Just asking employers to provide adequate protection in harmful environments. Raincoats for policemen on patrol, wetsuits for divers, sunscreen for people out there under all that harmful radiation. Several million billion tons of thermonuclear explosion doesn’t happen without harmful side-effects, you know. DM may not have woken up the dangers yet, but a lot of people have.

Second, the legislation started out to protect people working in hazardous artifiical environments. The BBC says “The Optical Radiation Directive is principally designed to limit workers’ exposure to lasers, X-rays, welding torches or ultra-violet lamps.” Anyone have a problem with that?

The legislation was drafted by the European Commission, and changed at the request of CERTAIN NATIONAL GOVERNMENTS. It was not the EU trying to mess with people, it was a few individual countries.

Thirdly, the European Parliament rejected the legislation. “It is no business of the EU to tell workers that they can’t be bare-chested or wear shorts,” British Liberal MEP Liz Lynne said during a debate in Strasbourg on Tuesday.

She wasn’t talking about ‘them’. She was stating that she, as a Member of the European Parliament, didn’t want to be interfering with people’s lives in this way. And then she voted against the proposal along with a majority of MEPs. Europe is not trying to dictate what people can do, even when some governments ask them to.

Now it’s up to the EU council to accept the will of the elected representatives of Europe’s peoples. Or they can refuse to accept this decision and force a compromise. But the council is appointed by national governments, not by the EU. Once again we’re back to individual countries causing problems and everyone blaming Europe.

This reminds me of the time when, in response to public requests, legislation was drafted to limit the noise emitted by lawnmowers. Some people wanted to enjoy their Sundays in peace and quiet, some wanted to mow their lawns, and the compromise was to insist that all new lawnmowers were reasonably quiet.

Britain, in response to complaints from a manufacturer of noisy lawnmowers in a marginal constituency, vetoed this proposal and the resulting fudge was a suggestion that it should be illegal to mow your lawn on a Sunday.

This proposal, the fault of the UK government, was blown-up as an example of EU meddling by the British media. And DM was obviously taken in. Meanwhile, the EU parliament vetoed it.

Finally, I’ve lived in Australia and NZ, two countries where the harm done by the sun is taken seriously. They didn’t solve the problem by excessive legislation, they solved it by public education. But if people insist on clinging to the absurd idea that the sun never shines in the UK then how do you avoid costly sun-related issues in future?

Oh, and I’ve seen construction workers - especially when state-funded - wearing sunhats etc provided by their employers in the USA. I bet they get waterproof jackets when it rains too, like policemen.

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Oh how I miss Germany…

I take on board what you say about individual countries proposing the ban and giving it to the EU for ratification.

But once drafted into EU law, is it going to become mandatory for people to cover up outside. Will employers face lawsuits if a worker contracts skin cancer?
We already have legislation which places mandatory “CAUTION! HOT!” signs on coffee cups from fast-food joints like Ronalds. Are workers going to be able to take their company to court because they have some kind of skin complaint?

People have more common sense than their respective governments give them credit for. People generally know that eating nails is bad for your stomach, lying in the middle of a motorway is bad for your health and staying out all day under the burning sun is bad for your skin (but a good source of vitamin D).

I watched a news article saying that the legislation could make it mandatory for businessess to provide full sun protection. This includes sunglassess, hats and more breaks for outdoor workers.
The cost to businesses would be huge, especially for smaller businesses who are already feeling the weight of unnecessary EU legislation (such as providing numerous expensive training days for employees on how to lift a box correctly).

On top of this, employees will have to assess weather data to determine what sun protection should be used and what flavour ice cream to purchase.

Your comparisson to policemens coats is of little value due to the fact that officers wear uniforms. Police officers can’t really be seen sporting their Tommy Hilfiger or North Face jackets when going out on patrol.
By contrast, builders, barmaids and construction workers seldom wear uniforms and provide their own clobber for work, therefore eliminating the need for employers to provide jackets.

Education is the key. Why do governments think it appropriate to force people to cover up when it is their own decision? They’re not bothering anyone else if they want to go red raw.
People have existed for millions of years and have managed quite well with suntan management. Why the need for governmen tintervention now?

[quote=“the rabid rodent”]Education is the key. Why do governments think it appropriate to force people to cover up when it is their own decision? They’re not bothering anyone else if they want to go red raw.
People have existed for millions of years and have managed quite well with suntan management. Why the need for government intervention now?[/quote]

I think that’s what the Euro-MP lady was saying.

So why bash the EU, when they’re protecting your rights against interference by ?

The legislation didn’t pass. Because most people thought it was daft. It was daft, no argument. (Thank God for the EU.)

But people are daft too, especially when it comes to long-term health risks like smoking, sun, or working with toxic chemicals. You can educate all you like, but it’s cooler to be burnt red by the sun, lungs full of tar, and caustic soda in your underpants. (Don’t ask about my last job.)

This is why Italy has now proposed European Union Directive #DM2005, which stipulates which kinds of ice cream are appropriate in different weathers and lays down procedures at national and regional level for ensuring adequate supply.

The European Strategic Gelato Reserve will be implemented at a cost of 2.3billion Euros, creating 2000 jobs in Brussels and 11 at the new top-secret automated ice-cream storage facility to be built in old Zeppelin hangars in Bavaria.

Proposals are being accepted by the new Commission for Frozen Refreshments for logos and a “threat awareness” board to advise the public on which flavour of ice-cream they should be eating for their own safety. Draft legislation means that all population centres of more than 317 people must display this new warning board during the official summer season*, starting in 2009.

Research in France has indicated that chocolate ice cream is suitable for consumption in almost all circumstances. Their alternative proposal, that consumption of this flavour be made mandatory in all workplaces, is still at the consultation stage and a report has been commissioned at a cost of

[quote=“Dangermouse”]Your comparisson to policemens coats is of little value due to the fact that officers wear uniforms. Police officers can’t really be seen sporting their Tommy Hilfiger or North Face jackets when going out on patrol.

By contrast, builders, barmaids and construction workers seldom wear uniforms and provide their own clobber for work, therefore eliminating the need for employers to provide jackets.[/quote]

Under the proposed Trades Conformity Act, requested by trades unions in Belgium, this may change. The idea is to create ‘European Standard Tradespersons’, who will be instantly recognisable by their clothing and body type.

Under this legislation, it will become a criminal offence to serve beer with a cleavage not meeting EU specifications, tanned or not. Same goes for plumbing, although the cleavage must be located in the designated area. Consultations continue about definitions and measures for cleavages.

All barmaids will be forced to wear the regulation barmaiding uniform. Construction workers will have their own distinctive garb, and naff hairstyles will be curbed. Policemen across Europe will be required to grow luxuriant German-style handlebar moustaches, unless working undercover. Undercover policemen will wear kilts, after intense lobbying by the Scots clothing industry. Ice cream vendors will also be required to be able to sing in Italian.

All Taiwanese girls should tan because they are much hotter with darker sink.

It does make sense in the form of protection. I’m sure safety goggles, motorcycle helmets, hard hats, seat belt and steel cap boot laws were put in place in various countries for much the same reason and provoked similar reactions to Dangermouse’s and others when the idea of legislation was introduced and unsurprisingly some people still rebel against those particular laws.

I still shake my head every time I see the way construction and roadworkers here in Taiwan are dressed while they’re doing an activity like spot-welding and not wearing safety goggles, boots(sometimes I’ve seen them completely barefoot) or a hard hat.

I do know sun cancer kills slowly if it does kill.