@zhendebaichi you may get away with your daughter only needing to give up one citizenship. Make sure she applies for residence on her Malaysian passport, not your passport. I assume you are not Malaysian.
@hsinhai78 I was unaware that it has now become so easy to get citizenship by naturalization for someone who has no blood relations to a Taiwanese citizen. For some reason, I remember the rules for naturalization being more strict. I was not intentionally try to confuse the OP. I was asking questions to understand the situation. Please refrain from making judgments without understanding my intentions.
It has been like this since February 2001 when the Enforcement Rules of the Nationality Act were enacted and superseded the previous regulations to reflect the overhaul of the ROC Nationality Law in 2000. You can refer to the legislative history of the law and check 內政部(90)內戶字第 9068204號令 for the full text of the 2001 version. You really seem to have an interesting definition of “now”. 18 years is hardly within the scope of “now” or even “recently.” 18 years is quite a long time considering all the amendments made to laws and regulations pertaining ROC nationality during that period!
Alright, let’s have a look at your initial post:
You were quite assertive in your insinuation that OP’s wife being a) a citizen of Malaysia b) in Taiwan on an ARC might somehow be an impediment to her naturalizing as a ROC national. You even decided to claim that other posters are confusing ARCs and APRCs! And in your follow-up for some reason you decide to make this an issue of blood relations with Taiwanese people. You are not only generally uninformed, you also continue to spread confusing and false information.
You were quite assertive in your insinuation that OP’s wife being a) a citizen of Malaysia b) in Taiwan on an ARC might somehow be an impediment to her naturalizing as a ROC national. You even decided to claim that other posters are confusing ARCs and APRCs! And in your follow-up for some reason you decide to make this an issue of blood relations with Taiwanese people. You are not only generally uninformed, you also continue to spread confusing and false information.
Again, I did not insinuate anything. I was asking questions. Because…
Yes, you are right, I am uninformed. But being uninformed about the laws of naturalization is not a crime! I learned something new today.
I was not intentionally trying to spread false information. This place is a forum. And as far as I know, forums are for discussing things. If someone comes from a place of ignorance, fine. But that person can learn from others as I am now.
You sound like you are trying to say that I had evil intent by trying to mislead someone with incorrect information! Is that your intention? Because if that is what you are really thinking, you are 100% wrong about me! I was only stating that an APRC and Citzenship are 2 different things because I didn’t know that it was possible to apply for citizenship after 5 years on an ARC. I only knew that it was possible to apply for an APRC after 5 years on an ARC.
Thank you for sharing what you know about the naturalization law. I never knew that it was already like this since 2001. Ignorant me? Yes. Evil me? No.
My situation is similar to @ZhendeBaichi but with a slightly different problem.
My wife and I are both foreigners (different nationalities), and our baby was born in Taiwan while we were still foreigners. I applied for naturalization successfully along with my daughter as per Article 7 (mentioned by @tando above)
The only problem now is that while I can renounce my citizenship, my daughter can’t. I talked to Philippine’s embassy here and all they’ll say is “minors cannot renounce their citizenship”.
At this rate, I would gain Taiwanese citizenship by next year, but my daughter needs to wait 18 years to get hers.
Not sure what are my options now.
Can’t a minor become Taiwanese (without renunciation) if one of the parents become a Taiwanese citizen?
So far what I have learnt is that Taiwan will make an exceptions for countries that don’t let your renounce. Taiwan is already aware of such countries and may ask you to provide a letter etc to let you go ahead with citizenship without renunciation.
However, for cases where renunciation IS allowed but only on reaching certain age, all they can offer is an extension for you to renounce once you reach the legal age.
I don’t know how to convince the HHRO here that I don’t want my daughter to wait until 18. I can’t spend 18 years living in Taiwan as a citizen while my daughter lives on a TARC not having the same rights as children of other citizens.
Practically, I guess you may not feel much differences on your daughter. Will the fact that she is a NWOHR with other nationalities cause much difficulties when your family will move to different places?
Technically by mid next year I will be a Taiwanese citizen and parent of a NWOHR minor. The only issue is I want my child to also become a full citizen, but without having to renounce her current citizenship.
This rule makes no sense. How can they expect a child to renounce anything?
Should be like in Germany. Minors get to keep previous citizenship.
I don’t get why Taiwan fights double citizenship so hard. Many Taiwanese enjoy this privilege in many countries.
The only other nationality she has is Filipino. I don’t know yet what are the differences growing up here as a foreigner child vs a Taiwanese child. I wonder if it will be like it is for adults here on ARC vs someone who is a citizen.
Last but not least, Traveling will be troublesome. I won’t need visas for most places but she will.
I assure you that for your daughter, practically there may be not much differences she would feel by the legal differences of being a NWOHR and a citizen, while she is a student. For parents, there are some different paperworks and some benefits that cannot be applied for, but she will be a Taiwanese child of a citizen, so most benefits may be applicable.