Taiwan Immigration Denying Entry to Those Who Have (Invalid) Travel Permits

https://twitter.com/trickytaipei/status/1666449512565469184

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It would be good to have info about the specific reason for the denial.

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Here is the tweet since embedding does not work

Looked this up to try to understand what a “SEA travel certificate” actully is. The additional requirements are weird;

Online application for ROC Travel Authorization Certificate for nationals of Cambodia, India, Indonesia, Laos, Myanmar, and Vietnam

Nationals of Cambodia, India, Indonesia, Laos, Myanmar, and Vietnam can apply online for an ROC Travel Authorization Certificate

Nationals of these countries intending to submit an online application for such a certificate should carefully read the following before proceeding to the next page.

Basic requirements
To be eligible for an ROC Travel Authorization Certificate, the following three basic requirements must be met:

  1. The applicant’s passport must have remaining validity of at least six months starting from the date of arrival in Taiwan.
  2. The applicant must possess an onward/return air or ferry ticket.
  3. The applicant has never been employed as a blue-collar worker in Taiwan.

Additional requirements
In addition to the aforementioned basic requirements, one of the following requirements must also be met:

  • 1.The applicant possesses at least one of the following documents issued by Australia, Canada, Japan, Korea, New Zealand, any of EU and Schengen countries, the United Kingdom, or the United States:
    • 。Valid resident or permanent resident card
    • 。Valid entry visa (may be electronic visa)
    • 。Resident card or visa that has expired less than 10 years prior to the date of arrival in Taiwan
  • ※Applicants who use an electronic visa issued by Australia or New Zealand as the required document must present the valid Australia or New Zealand electronic visa as entering Taiwan.
  • ※Applicants who use a visa issued by Japan/Korea as the required document must present the proof record of entering Japan/Korea.
  • 2.The applicant possesses an entry visa or resident card issued by the ROC at any point in the past 10 years and has no record of immigration irregularities or law violations in Taiwan. However, holders of ROC entry visas bearing the remark FL (migrant worker), X (others), or P with “Special permission from MOFA” (visa and eVisa for “Project for Simplifying Visa Regulations for High-end Group Tourists from Southeast Asian Countries (Project Kuan-Hong)” ever issued), as well as holders of ROC resident cards with stated purpose of residence being migrant worker (移淄), are not eligible for an ROC Travel Authorization Certificate.

A vital piece of information noticably absent from any of the tweets!

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Hopefully she can go on to enjoy her graduation. Though we don’t know the full story and she might be omitting some details because she’s upset. When you meet this type of discrimination, especially against your parents, you become very cynical about Taiwan and it takes a while to think positive again. It’s happened to me a few times and made me more cynical and complain more these days and not like when I just came here.

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It seems like the Australia visa that’s required for the travel permit to be valid was expired. This makes the travel permit invalid.

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What discrimination did they meet?

What is this? Outsourcing visa work to other embassies? If you’re good enough for the countries we worship you’re good enough for us? That whole “documents from foreign governments are more official than our own” attitude that seems to be prevalent around here? What a joke!

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You mean how Mexico has a policy of letting some people into Mexico if they hold a US visa? Taiwanese require a visa for Mexico but are exempt if they hold a US visa. That’s how my wife has entered Mexico before.

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Or a Schengen visa for Europe? Not exactly a new concept.

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Many people also seem to fail to understand any country can deny entry to a foreigner even if they hold a valid visa. A visa does not guarantee entry into a country it allows boarding on a vessel or other way of traveling to that country.

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Equally silly IMO. I presume this also isn’t just applied to a handful of SEA nations.

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It is applied to people in Europe who are not in the EU countries. Taiwanese used to need one but as the overstay rate for Taiwanese is so low we are granted visa free entry. People from China on the other hand need one.

Presume? Not like it is not hard to find out is it?

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It is also reciprocity here. China requires visa for all EU nationals, tw does not. That’s a must for schengen free entry.

Then many other criteria, but that’s fundamental

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Australia requires all foreigners to have a visa but has visa free entry to EU. So yes other criteria like overstay rate is taken into account.

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Immigration departments dont have time to go through and assess individual cases so often make up sweeping rules that can often be cruel and illogical to many.

Its not really a Taiwan thing

Not in the traditional sense. I’d argue ETA and eVisitor are not what others are saying when they mean ‘visa’

If we start calling these ‘visas’ in colloquial speak, then the end of ‘visa-free’ travel is upon us. Because the Schengen zone and others also have ETA-like programmes.

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Well be careful with that one. On Australian Immigration website it is clearly stated the ETA is in fact a visa. The USA clearly states the ESTA is NOT a visa. When my wife with her friends travelled to South America they had to transit through the USA even though they did not enter the USA. So they all got a 5 year US visa and not the ESTA or a Transit visa. Mexico allows Taiwanese with a transit visa or a US visa to enter Mexico without a visa. Not with ESTA.

So yes the ETA is in fact a visa under Australian law. That is because foreigners must enter Australia with a visa.

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Nowadays a lot of information is online and online applicants provide information to be assessed. I used to issue visa’s for Australia. Very few applicants are refused. Some people are as they are placed on migration alert lists. Maybe they were deported from another country or maybe they have a criminal record or also done prison time somewhere.

Some people have no employment and get rejected.