Taiwan just (slightly) relaxed Dual Citizenship Rules

So what you’re saying is that rich people (instead of average working people) cannot buy their way out of jail?

With this position, you may be our candidate for Minister of Justice! :grin:

But your plan will cost money. So we will need a Minister of Finance to sort through the budget to see if this will work . . .

Guy

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Yes. Regardless of bank account balance, social standing or guanxi, everyone must go to jail.

Do the crime, do the time!

For our next nominee, I would like to recommend @Gain to be in charge of the Mainland Affairs Council. I’d love to see the sourface CCP officials when they are confronted by our unstoppable truth teller.

And if @Gain hates this appointment, OK fine we can eventually arrange to send him off to the Paris office to work in our foreign ministry. :rofl:

Guy

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Wholesome to see @fifieldt embracing his new citizenship

love_meeseeks

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Congratulations Takashiosan!

Now make some babies.

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After reading a lot of posts in this thread I was wondering whether anything prevents you (other than if your country specifically disallows this practice) to renounce your original citizenship then become a local national then regain your original citizenship? I believe in many countries it could be done in a fairly short amount of time. Since if I understood correctly once you’re local national here you can have a second passport.

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No. It’s completely legal.

It’s just a huge hassle for many of us to uproot our lives to go live somewhere else.

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Thanks, Marco, I completely understand that. I was really just wondering as recently we had a conversation with our representatives here (small EU country) and we were discussing a similar scenario. They told us that they can assist with both renunciation and re-obtaining of the nationality. According to them the process is easy (simplified process for those who already held the citizenship or have parents there and for a couple of other scenarios) its basically a few thousand NT dollars and takes a few weeks only.

I can imagine for other countries the process would be more protracted and difficult. In any case, Taiwan nationals who acquire second and third citizenships are not required to jump through such hoops. Why can’t the situation be equal to everyone, in which the Taiwan authorities decide either:

  1. dual or multiple citizenship is OK, and let’s go with it, including with naturalized citizens; or
  2. dual or multiple citizenship is not OK, so please ban it, including for Taiwan’s multitude of passport-collecting nationals.

Cheers,
Guy

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Issue is, if your country allows dual nationality, whether Taiwan would accept it or not.

Few weeks only…Sounds like complete BS.

Besides renunciation.is only part of the deal.

You need to then live with the NWOHR for a year at least which isn’t really a proper passport and you don’t have a Taiwan ID during that time .

And not exit the country in one year or just brief periods in the following two years (to satisfy their bizarre residency requirements even if you lived here for the previous 20 years!!!).

So it’s not a ‘few weeks’ process even if your own country was somehow miraculously easy going and competent about renouncing and regaining citizenship.

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Mind telling us which country?

It’s not bullshit in a few countries. I know Australia has some provisions that can restore it quickly too.

Edit: I saw that heart takesies backsies @Brianjones Give it back! :rofl:

Jokes.

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Yes but to turn around will not be a few weeks. You have to apply to renounce, confirm, then apply to get it back, confirm, send out new passport.

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I think it really depends on the country. Some are really loose and others are strict.

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Mine is supposedly easy going but they are so incompetent and slow in general that it could be a month to six months or more … …Who knows. Even that was too much for me before as I needed to travel a lot so I needed a fully functioning passport AND of course if I travelled I was not going to get the Taiwan ID for a few years at least (due to aforementioned ridiculous post residency requirement ). So I abandoned the whole thing. Now I’m going to abandon their country. Nobody cares including me.

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I just checked and it is up to 12 weeks (should be shorter if you’re applying outside of the year end holiday season) for the whole process and for your new ID and passport it is up to 14 days until it is delivered. The paperwork is relatively simple. You have to submit a single document (15pages) and one attachment (birth certificate). The document is actually even shorter if you do not have a children or spouse who you want to include. The process is the same if you apply for it for your children who was born outside of the country.
Since it is not required to do a language exam or any other test I can imagine it is actually relatively quick.

But if for you a few weeks is literally 2-3 weeks than you’re right, it could be longer than that. IMHO 12 weeks is quite quick considering that you do not have to leave Taiwan. If I were to do it it would not really affect me since I usually go back to Europe in every 6-12 months. I am not entirely sure about what is required from the Taiwanese side as I did not dig myself into the topic that much. It was more like an observation from my end.

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Where did you find this little nugget of information?

In my case, I wouldn’t be recognized as a “native” anymore, rather “naturalized” instead.
Maybe it’s not a big deal, but I couldn’t take major political positions or own media outlets as result.

And to get my nationality back, I’d have to live for at least one uninterrupted year in my home country first.

So far, it doesn’t seems to be worthy (not to mention unfair)

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On my governments website. I meant when you apply for regaining your original citizenship since you’re filing the documents in your native language they do not require you to take a separate citizenship test. But again, I am not an expert so everyone should check with their own representatives. As @Brianjones mentioned, some of them are less competent than others. I am from a small country, we are a small community and our representatives are very helpful with whatever question you might have.

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I agree, it is not optimal and not really fair… I personally don’t see many benefits for myself as an individual (at least not enough benefits to go through the process). I was just kinda wondering. It might change later, who knows…

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