Taiwan population decline

Your half-glass-might-be-full approach is admirable. :grin:

Guy

It’s the whole world not just Taiwan.

Anyway the planet could deal with half the population it has now a lot better. Where is Thanos when you need him.

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The last time the world population was half of what it is now was 1973. It took 50 years to double the population and wipe out all of Thanos’s gains. He should have worked on figuring out geometric progression.

Taiwan is way worse that the rest and declining. Most of develop countries are around 1.6/2? Taiwan it’s like 0.8?

Yeah Taiwan is the top 3 worst or sometimes listed as the worst if you consider some of the others are city states.
Usually a toss up between Korea and Taiwan .
Taiwan is so rich though and so crowded that it is taking a while for the effects to be felt. Certainly you will feel them in the countryside with many (even more) run down towns.

Even in the suburbs of some big cities such as Kaohsiung you can see it’s bad though…such as Old Zuoying , just full of old people and run down looking buildings and businesses can’t imagine what it’s like in 10 or 20 years!

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Deaths in red, births in blue.
It’s just a snapshot but it doesn’t show the crisis affecting different parts of the country in different ways. For instance many schools will have to close in the countryside soon , others are still way oversubscribed in popular city districts.

The labour market doesn’t reflect this crisis accurately because they continue to import more and more blue collar workers for manufacturing and caregiving and even agriculture now. Automation probably covers over some gaps too but certain sectors are struggling , restaurants and hotels for example can’t get stable workers.

One of the major factors their birth rate is dropping is that this 850k strong cohort of people of breeding age are effectively prohibited from having children here. It’s such a dumb self inflicted policy of aging and population destruction.

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Love the way the govt offers zero solutions. Impending doom is a non issue, schools with only 1 kid in class is no big deal guys. Nothing to see here.

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That won’t solve the issue. It’ll just delay the inevitable.

There is going to be a decline in population.

Hopefully societies will go back to prioritizing marriage and children instead of consumerism.

There was a time when it was one’s duty to marry and have kids. For society’s sake it’ll have to make a comeback

Perhaps, but it is a practical solution. You are offering a hope.

Clearly not. I’m offering what has worked in the past.

Hopefully a return to the past, then. Let’s hope it happens.

As it is no impending doom. It’s just like a stock market corrrection.
Later on younger people will outnumber the aged as we will have all died off. Maybe we need Logans Run to be implemented.

Return to the tried and true. Societies that do (like Hungary’s) have a better chance of sticking around.

We don’t know that -this is all new territory for our species.

Arguably aging societies will just die off or be reduced to nothing.

There are no solutions that the voters will accept, so there is no problem

Everyone has the same problem, so there is no problem

Japan is some years ahead, so Taiwan can follow the same path. Japan hasn’t imploded, so no problem

It’s not a problem for most of the people here now. It might be a problem for their great grandkids. But if they don’t have children, still no problem!

Hungary’s population is declining.

Looking to a future of Taiwan without actual Taiwanese—just millions of workers from SE Asia making stuff for export and paying taxes (withheld at source) supervised by robots I guess. :person_shrugging:

Guy

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We do. It is not that new generations of children are not being born they are just in less numbers than those currently alive. It is not a species extinction event.

By the time the population is that low, the last of the ChiComs can float over here and move on in

Yes but I believe it’s the highest in Europe so far - and its policy changes are still too little…but too late? We will see