Taiwan population decline

I presume by this post that you view such properties as places to park money, done in the expectation that of course prices will always rise. What could possibly go wrong?

Guy

An interesting post!

When I moved to Taiwan several decades ago, I was stunned by the lack of units for single people like me. All I saw were generally horrible (some disgustingly filthy) three bedroom apartments, often with boxy layouts. I didn’t need three bedrooms, I was single! Where were smaller or better designed units? It was a struggle to find one.

Do forumosans think that the situation has improved?

Guy

Saw this event happening at Costco.

Seems like Taiwanese still want to be parents, but not to actual kids.

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Monthly births fell below 7,000 for the first time on record to 6,523, down 3,884 year over year and 2,200 from January, for an annual crude birth rate of 3.65 per 1,000 people.

… the number of people leaving Taiwan outstripped new arrivals by 414.

Record low births and negative net migration.
Deaths are more than double of births now. :skull:

So these numbers are pretty shocking because they confirm the ‘blip’ last year wasn’t a blip but actually an accelerating trend of decreasing births.

How the feck does that happen ?

Monthly births fell below 7,000 for the first time on record of 6,523, down 3,884 year over year

I’m wondering if the large number of Taiwanese visiting Japan over the last few years has anything to do with it.

Regardless of what any or us might like society to look like, the reality is Taiwan is in terminal population decline. The question now is how to manage a super aged population which is also declining overall. I think technology might sort us out, but then I’m generally an optimist.

We already know how capitalism will deal with superaged societies.

Except it won’t be 25cents

Like commonly found in Japan, Taiwan restaurants will/should buy kiosk-type tablets for ordering at table and not force customers to download the restaurant’s app through a QRR code.

Visualized.
Now the last bar is expected to reach to less than 90,000, so it should be higher than what’s shown there

Migrant workers.

Guy

from where? The world is running out of them.

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Taiwan last year had 370,000 more women than men, as more girls are being born than boys and women continue to outlive men.

Make polygamous marriage great again?

Finally!!!

How many of the women will be of child-bearing age?

Hahaha. TouchĂŠ

Does the govt just ignore these stats every month they come out or what?

How hard is it to start a department for reversing population decline, hire some people, copy whatever japan and korea are doing (to reverse it, because its evidently more than Taiwan are) and get the ball rolling.

Right now I just dont see the logic.

Are they expecting the numbers to randomly start going up? Wtf is going on.

There are plenty of able-bodied old people who have been discarded by society as obsolete and are now idled. AI is doing the same number on many young people. From living part-time in Hokkaido where dotards in the work force are a common sight I’m not so sure we can’t make do for a generation or two until the population stabilizes at a new, lower level. I know I’d much rather have a stable population of 15 million in Taiwan than an endlessly increasing population in the 30 millions or so.

There are already how many tens of thousands of foreign workers in Taiwan? Could it be 1 million?

I just got a ChatGPT estimate over 1 million. This is how the system is self correcting, not through employing old people or technology alone, although that might help to some degree, but the easiest thing is to just get more and more temporary foreign labor. Sometimes illegal.