Taiwan population decline

Fair but they take the consequences of that from higher chance of poverty and stress from doing it alone.

Oh and the kid has a higher chance of being a delinquent:( it’s in the data.

And you need to ask yourself what person would want to have a child with someone they wouldn’t want in their life?

Yes, AI doesn’t spend money, but it creates wealth. The fewer people will have more money to spend. Who will be the fewer people though? What will the ‘useless class’ do? Those are the real questions.

Those more likely married with kids…

I know some heteosexual single women that have conceived via sperm donors.

And some lesbians too.

The useless class will probably be married with multiple kids… The underclass is always popping out them babies. They normally start having them as teens too. There’s never a shortage of pregnancies or early marriages in the lowest socioeconomic group.

Not sure of your logic on that, but in future people may require EQ, empathy tests in order to receive a license to have kids.

Anecdotal

Do an ai search on your favorite platform…and retrieve the data

Empathy tests? who administers these tests…you and those who think like you?

Sorry to tell you it’s a numbers game and those with more kids and more money win out: they tend to be those married with kids.

Oh and I’ll wager that on average those who are married with kids have higher eq compared to other groups…

Well on second thought…I dunno..you’d have to be crazy to get married :wink:

Most people who have lots of kids actually live in poverty, and I’m only referring to advanced developed countries here.

Edit.

rather than most, it appears a better statememt would be:

Families with lots of kids have double the chance of living in poverty.

Or

A substantial number of families with lots of kids live in poverty.

I know for certain I will never get married (women have too many checklists I can’t fulfill) but I do want to be a father one day.

But adoption as a single person is near impossible anyway.

Again that seems a logic leap, and I have not seen a reflection of that in your posts.

Probably the elites will decide the test criteria, and no I’m not an elite.

Can you give some examples please? What country qualifies as an “advanced developed country?”

USA for example…

Large families in the United States face a significantly higher risk of living in poverty compared to smaller families. While the overall national poverty rate in 2024 was 10.6% (roughly 35.9 million people), specific household structures—particularly those with many children—experience much higher rates of financial hardship.

Poverty Risks by Family Size and Type

The likelihood of falling below the poverty line increases with the number of children in a household:

Families with 3+ children: The poverty rate for children in these large families is 44%, more than double the rate for families with only one child (21%).

That was my gut instinct, hence my ‘logic leap’ comment above, but thanks for the data! Statistics matter.

AI does spend money when you allow it to do so. That’s actually one of the main dangers, AI deciding to pay people to do things for it’s own survival while realising it’s better or without/with much less people.

Been quite a few experiments already with AI given money to spend.

However it could get worse as in AI finding ways to earn money itself and spend it to influence people to make it bigger/survive.

It’s just another step from AI usually telling people more what they like to hear Vs what they don’t want to hear to keep those people engaged.

And then there will always be people that will work for the AI it paid well enough…once robots get good enough AI plus robots together could find out they can survive better without people and then we have a grave problem…

It’s not so much about what it can do but about what it’s allowed to do or can do without being found out.

Right now they don’t have enough people to do what needs to be done, so they import them. Having fewer people wouldn’t mean a safer, more prosperous, more comfortable Taiwan

Ballerinas, basket weavers, finger painters, and literature professors?

Is it really about not having enough people, or that their people don’t want that type of work for that money, many economies do the same thing.

Taiwan could have a population of 30 million, and they would still rely on a contracted foreign workforce.

'The population just doesn’t settle comfortable at higher numbers. It exponentiallyncreases with every generation. Naive, nonsense post."

You could caveat that with if they are single mothers or not and also if they are religious e.g. Muslims where the wife almost there works and they import them from third world countries. There’s a few additional factors that are more important I reckon.

Anyway having more kids is not something that’s a problem or an issue of any sort in Taiwan.

The issue here is that student numbers are drying up and who is going to care for the elderly and pay into the health and labour insurance system.
I personally don’t think a property price decrease is an issue…it’s overdue, but they are doing their damn best to keep them high as long as possible.